gunfighter: satisfaction abounds! (now with gameplay!)

[Kitty Jo]

With enough points in the Bloodwing cool down, with a good ranger mod, he can be tossed back out almost immediately upon return. I have much fun with that.

^ That's an extremely effective strategy against Craw. Aerial Impact takes care of the minions, allowing you to fully prioritize killing Craw. Anyway, back on topic: If you're having issues with survivability, I'd recommend getting a material 3 masher or shotgun. I'll post my Gunfighter build in a minute.

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Here's my build: http://talent.87bazillion.com/hunter...50535555500505 That build is for a variety of weapons. If you plan on restricting yourself to revolvers only, or shotguns only, etc, you can change the build accordingly. I'd take points out of Caliber and Trespass if you don't plan on sniping.

[get_you_one]

Did you read the OP? also still wondering about that ax300 xx two shot masher; is it better than the zz unforgiven masher?

[Scrap Nemesis]

no

[get_you_one]

^ in regards to what? The mashers?

[ctownpeepers]

Originally Posted by get_you_one

still wondering about that ax300 xx two shot masher; is it better than the zz unforgiven masher?

A couple of things will decide if its "better" or not for you. I prefer ZZ over XX. I like the material colors of ZZ and I dont like the knockback of the XX. Knockback can be fun, but it can also work to your detriment. I found this for reference concerning materials.

ManufacturerMaterials.Material_Jakobs_1
Dmg/ Acc/ FR/ Rec Red
35%/ ---/ -50%/ -30%

ManufacturerMaterials.Material_Jakobs_2 (ZZ)
Dmg/ Acc/ FR/ Rec Red
25%/ 50%/ -50%/ -28%

ManufacturerMaterials.Material_Jakobs_3 (XX)
Dmg/ Acc/ FR/ Rec Red
50%/-60%/ -50%/ -45%

As you can see damage and recoil reduction are what make the XX.
Accuracy and recoil reduction are what make the ZZ.
With alot of damage difference between the two.

EDIT-y, I did forget to mention that the Unforgiven will increase critical hit to 200%

[get_you_one]

thanks for the info, but it's nothing I didn't already know. I guess what I mean is, which is more powerful? Factoring in my build and whatnot.

[tom12121112]

thats all personal preference. use em both, then you tell us.

[get_you_one]

...hey that's an idea

[tom12121112]

there really isnt going to be a gun thats "better" than the ZZ, unless you find the same gun at a higher level or with mag4. anything you find is just going to be "different." at the same time, the two guns you are asking about are similar enough so that it probably wont make a difference one way or the other.