Research - Pearl / Cyan Weapons and Their Prefixes

[Skyline]

So stemming off of the Serpens testing, I decided to take pictures of every Cyan weapon that appeared and record its prefix.

The Results - Interesting. Some were unexpected, others expected.

To Vax if you're reading this - You can add this information onto your thread. I'm just aiming to inform.

Test Area

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...nShot00166.jpg

Credit - s620ex1

Nemesis -

Elemental Prefixes -

• Lightning (x3 prefix) [1] [2] [3]
• Fulgurating (x4 prefix) [1]

Notes:

• Will only be these two prefixes due to elemental prefixes ALWAYS overriding any material 2 or 3 prefix. So there can not be any Crimson Nemesis' legitimately.
• Is able to spawn with the Invader scope. Gun Card | Action Shot | Chest Shot

Stalker -

Quality Prefixes -

• Vile [1]

Accessory Prefixes -

• Double [1]
• Cold [1]
• Fanged [1]
• Stabilized [1]

Other Prefixes -

• Scoped [1] [2]

Notes:

• Prefixes are based of accessory first from what I can tell.
• Gathered that it cannot be elemental because if Elemental, it would be a machine pistol Tsunami. Most likely a design decision made by Gearbox from one or the other being obsolete.

Aries -

Material 3 Prefix -

• Pearl [1] [2] [3]

*Rumored Prefixes; Needs Confirmation* -

• Bloody
• Savage

Notes:

• Most likely only found Pearl Aries' because of the material 3. It looks like Material 3 doesn't it? I mean the color scheme. Replace the black with the purple that's present and there's your material.
• Not entirely sure on the rumored prefixes. Savage is unlikely to spawn since it is a Quality 3 Prefix and I've come to the conclusion that Quality 3 Prefixes get overridden by Material 3 Prefixes. Same for Bloody but I'm interested none the less. No prefix can override the Pearl Prefix.

Tsunami -

Material 3 Prefix -

• Cobalt [1] [2] [3]

Notes:

• It can only be Cobalt because there are two elements, shock and corrosive, present on the weapon. There is no set elemental prefix in the game that can describe both elements at once without taking up a second prefix slot, which does not exist.

Jackal -

Spread Prefix -

• Hunter's [1] [2]

*Rumored Accessory Prefix* -

• Fanged

Notes:

• Not entirely sure all I received were Hunter's. I was expecting elemental prefixes to go with these. Guess not.
• The only other prefix listed on Vax's thread is Fanged, which indicates the melee accessory. There may be a chance of accessories overriding the Hunter's accessory, which acts a "stock" prefix if you will.

Avenger -

Non-Elemental Prefixes -

• Genocide [1] [2]
• Punishing [1] [2]
• Intense [1]
• Deathly [1]

Elemental Prefixes (x3) -

• Burning [1] [2]
• Lightning [1] [2]
• Detonating [1] [2]
• Vitriolic [1] [2]

Elemental Prefixes (x2) -

• Caustic [1]

Other possible Prefixes -

Elemental Prefixes (x2) -

• Incendiary
• Blast
• Static

Notes:

• The Punishing Avenger has the Deahtly accessory on it. This leads me to believe that the Deathly prefix can and will be overridden by other prefixes in this case.
• Most likely, the elemental # you receive will be the prefix you receive as well. I.E. Caustic is #2 while, Vitriolic is #3.

Serpens -

Prefixes -

• Glorious [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
• Support [1] *Credit to Maxxfury*.
• Scoped [1] *Credited to BloatedGoat*

Notes:

So let me entirely explain why Glorious and Support will be the only prefixes to spawn on a Serpens:

• The special traits that the S&S brand that other companies fall short in is the ability to have an increased mag size and tech damage. In cases like the Draco, the damage isn't reduced at that due to the elemental accessory which makes it an excellent weapon.
• The Glorious Prefix ties into S&S's traits because it provides an increase in the mag capacity. It also provides a tech pool increase, supporting their second trait.
• The Support Prefix is a lower quality version of the Glorious prefix. According to Willowtree, it indicates that the weapon has a large magazine capacity as it has no special effects from what I can tell. However, it is still supporting one of S&S' traits, which is magazine capacity.

Bessie -

Quality Prefixes -

• Fearsome [1] [2]

Accessory Prefixes -

• Long [1] [2]
• Rolling [1] [2]

Possible Accessory Prefix to Spawn -

• Sighted [Indicates the Heavy Accessory] [Not Possible]

Notes:

• The Bessie is another case of accessory prefixes overriding the quality 3 prefix.
• The Heavy accessory is noted by the Sighted prefix. I'm not sure if I've gotten a Bessie with the Heavy accessory yet but I'll continue searching. The Fearsome Bessie shown has the Heavy accessory, as Pyrite pointed out to me. Therefore the order in which the Bessie prefixes can spawn is: Long / Rolling > Fearsome > Sighted.

Undertaker -

Material 3 Prefix -

• Steel [1] [2]

Notes:

• Most likely following the code of the high-end Rocket Launchers. Elemental Prefix does not matter on rocket launchers as it is always x4 so it can not override on Rocket Launchers, therefore contradicting myself earlier in this post.
• In this case, Steel overrides everything possible. Accessory and any other prefix for Rocket Launchers.

*Update* Researching Pearl / Cyan Weapons via Borderlands Editor:

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...&postcount=102
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...&postcount=104

Credit to Darkdrium.


And that ends that. If you have any questions or positive criticisms or suggestions, feel free to post.Any undisciplined behavior will be reported at first sight. No if's, and's, or but's. I may continue researching and possibly find new prefixes with the weapons. For now, that is all.

[xHBTNx]

Well done Sky.

I voted yes even though I was already confident in most of what was posted. Hopefully it'll cut down on the mindless debates and legit checks.

Edit: I think I've got a few pictures of Steel Undertakers in chests, a Hunters Jackal, and maybe a couple other things if you want me to throw them your way to add.

[thrasherv3]

Originally Posted by xHBTNx

Well done Sky.

Couldn't agree more

[Pyrite]

Great job, Sky. Got a couple of questions, though:

1.) Nemesis vs Tsunami:

Will only be these two prefixes due to elemental prefixes ALWAYS overriding any material 2 or 3 prefix. So there can not be any Crimson Nemesis' legitimately.

It can only be Cobalt because there are two elements, shock and corrosive, present on the weapon. There is no set elemental prefix in the game that can describe both elements at once without taking up a second prefix slot, which does not exist.

Haven't tested a Nemesis myself, but isn't its stated ability for the bullet to split in two - one shock, one corrosive - at range? (Just minor nitpicking.)

Also, more pertinently, the best legitimate weapons thread clearly shows a 1x fire Crimson Invader, a 4x fire Cobalt Firehawk and a 3x Corrosive Nasty Hornet...

2.) Aries

Most likely only found Pearl Aries' because of the material 3. It looks like Material 3 doesn't it? I mean the color scheme. Replace the black with the purple that's present and there's your material.

It's listed as RevolverPistol.Material.Aries_3 in WillowTree, so you're probably right.

Not entirely sure on the rumored prefixes. Savage, for sure, is highly unlikely since it only appears on Legendary revolvers as indicators that it is a Masher, usually speaking. Bloody is the one I'm interested in.

Isn't Savage just a quality prefix?

[xHBTNx]

Originally Posted by Pyrite

Isn't Savage just a quality prefix?

From what I've been able to tell, its listed as a quality prefix in WT, but it also modifies damage.

[s620ex1]

no shout outs to me? For my awsome test map?.....

[Pyrite]

Originally Posted by xHBTNx

From what I've been able to tell, its listed as a quality prefix in WT, but it also modifies damage.

Yeah - actually as far as I know, any quality prefix that isn't a set manufacturer material prefix adds bonus damage. I was taking issue with the "usually a masher" bit.

Also: just wondering if any information was gained regarding the Pearlescent shields.

[Eigus]

Good job Sky. One thing that bothers me is the Savage prefix on revolvers, isn't that just the highest quality prefix that can be? (such as Fearsome for SRs, Malevolent for SMGs etcetera) While Bloody seems to be the second best quality one.

[xHBTNx]

Originally Posted by Pyrite

Yeah - actually as far as I know, any quality prefix that isn't a set manufacturer material prefix adds bonus damage. I was taking issue with the "usually a masher" bit.

Also: just wondering if any information was gained regarding the Pearlescent shields.

Oh. Usually a masher... can't say I've ever seen a non-masher with the Savage prefix. Either way, I don't think it matters because if you were to throw Bloody/Savage on the same exact gun, they would get the same damage bonus.

I can confirm Alacritious on Omegas/Roses and Hardened on Ironclads (although I'm sure all of those are already known )

[Pyrite]

Eigus: actually, Bloody is separate from the Brutal/Primal/Savage line of quality prefixes. Both Bloody and Savage give the same bonuses.