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Old February 16th, 2013, 01:44 PM   #1
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Default Maliwan Sniper Rifle Accessory - Gentleman's VS Barking (With Real Numbers!)

WARNING: This is an extremely long comparison between the Critical (Gentleman's) and Damage (Barking) accessories for any Maliwan sniper rifle that "Deals Bonus Elemental Damage".

I had to dabble in the dark arts to get these 2 guns (if you know what I mean).



They both have Maliwan grips on them so their stats should be the most similar. The items in the red boxes are the accessories.
  • The bipod on the Gentleman's Snider is what gives it increased Critical Hit Damage.
  • The scope cover on the Barking Snider is what gives it increased Gun Damage.

Tested both guns by firing at the Target Practice in Marcus' Shop. No unnecessary items equipped, no skills activated & BA ranks disabled.

The red parts of the calculations are additional elemental splash damages.

Gentleman's Snider bodyshot damage:


19040 + 19040 X 0.5 = 28559

Barking Snider bodyshot damage:


20824 + 20824 X 0.5 = 31236

Gentleman's Snider crit damage:


19040 X 2 X (100% + 120%) + 19040 X 0.5 = 93292

Barking Snider crit damage:


20824 X 2 X (100% + 100%) + 20824 X 0.5 = 93708

The Bee

"dat shield" again:


Base damage for Gentleman's Snider is 41882 + 19040 = 60922
Base damage for Barking Snider is 41882 + 20824 = 62706

Gentleman's Snider + The Bee bodyshot damage:


60922 + 60922 X 0.5 = 91383

Barking Snider + The Bee bodyshot damage:


62706 + 62706 X 0.5 = 94060

Gentleman's Snider + The Bee crit damage:


60922 X 2 X (100% + 120%) + 60922 X 0.5 = 298k

Barking Snider + The Bee crit damage:


62706 X 2 X (100% + 100%) + 62705 X 0.5 = 282k

Skill Crit Bonus

5/5 Headsh0t which gives +20% Critical Hit Damage:


Gentleman's Snider + Headsh0t crit damage:


19040 X 2 X (100% + 120% + 20%) + 19040 X 0.5 = 100k

Barking Snider + Headsh0t crit damage:


20824 X 2 X (100% + 100% + 20%) + 20824 X 0.5 = 102k

Skill Crit Bonus & The Bee

Gentleman's Snider + Headsh0t + The Bee crit damage:


60922 X 2 X (100% + 120% + 20%) + 60922 X 0.5 = 322k

Barking Snider + Headsh0t + The Bee crit damage:


62706 X 2 X (100% + 100% + 20%) + 62706 X 0.5 = 307k

Additional Number Crunching

Without The Bee: The Barking Snider will always deal higher crit damage than the Gentleman's Snider.

With the Bee: The Barking Snider will deal higher crit damage than the Gentleman's Snider only when the total skill crit bonus is higher than 458%.

Please feel free to ask me any questions. Thanks for reading!

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Old February 16th, 2013, 01:58 PM   #2
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So if I'm reading this right, then a Maliwan sniper has a base 400% critical multiplier?
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Old February 16th, 2013, 02:01 PM   #3
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So if I'm reading this right, then a Maliwan sniper has a base 400% critical multiplier?
Yes, the same as all other non-Jakobs sniper rifles. It's just that the elemental splash adds to the damage they deal.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #4
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Alright, now, do the Pimpernel. I may need to go back and re-farm if this turns out the way I think it might.
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Alright, now, do the Pimpernel. I may need to go back and re-farm if this turns out the way I think it might.
The Pimpernel should show similar numbers to those in the OP. Just plug the damage stat of your Pimpernel into the equations shown in the OP.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #6
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Aww I need a new Volcano lol. Thanks again!
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Old February 16th, 2013, 05:10 PM   #7
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Got pics for gentlemans +headsh0t + bee crit and the barking +headsh0t crit mixed up but otherwise very interesting.
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The Pimpernel should show similar numbers to those in the OP. Just plug the damage stat of your Pimpernel into the equations shown in the OP.
The cast-off bomblets calculate crits in a seemingly unusual fashion if you get them to hit the same target multiple times. The gun itself hits at about 160k on a conventional crit, but I can do upwards of 500k if I get spacing right.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 05:51 PM   #9
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With the Pimperanl Gentalmens is preffered, because the bomlets can all crit, you can do this by aiming at the crotch.
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Soooo Barking Volcano is better than Gentlemens Volcano? Damnit. I love my Volcano

Looks like I have to upgrade it -.-
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