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View Poll Results: Thoughts on Bloodsplosion?
Is Broken. Should be balanced 76 19.10%
Is Broken. Shouldn't Be Balanced though 84 21.11%
Isnt Broken 114 28.64%
Indifferent 46 11.56%
BLT with soup. 78 19.60%
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Old May 21st, 2013, 08:11 PM   #1
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Default Is Blood Splosion completely and totally BROKEN? (Maybe Absolutely Broken?)

Before we start. This is not a call for nerf. I do not personally think it should be altered. But I think functionality warrant discussion.

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Lets face it gang. The ability is broken. It needs a ceiling on the splosion damage. It completely trivializes boss content (and no the encounters themselves are not perfect either).

Anyone who tries to convince themselves otherwise is really reaching. Holding on tight to the SPLODES. Yes. Its fun. But its broken. More broken than the bee ever was. Heck. Its close to how broken evil smasher was. Is it a bug? No. Is it a massive oversight? Yes, I believe so. An oversight just like original amp damage was. The main issue is that the people who test content are not the core dedicated audience who would think about SPLODING things. You cannot use the "it made it in, it must be intended".

Fact is, we likely know Borderlands better than Gearbox does. No. We definitely do. They coded it thinking it would be cool and splodey. And it is. But its also completely broken and trivializes raid content.

Currently 3 out of five bosses can be sploded as you can see below.

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Old May 21st, 2013, 08:17 PM   #2
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Default Re: Blood Splosion is completely and totally BROKEN (Also Absolutely Broken)

Yup. Next patch hopefully was already planned to be devoted to Krieg balance/optimization.
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Why would they want to nerf a character they are trying to sell separately?
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Old May 21st, 2013, 08:18 PM   #4
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inb4 "if you don't like it, don't use it"
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Old May 21st, 2013, 08:20 PM   #5
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Why would they want to nerf a character they are trying to sell separately?
They wouldnt. Thats the issue here.

It would hurt sales.

But on the other side of the coin, this ability is worse than original amp damage ever was. EVER EVER EVER. The about of gear "needed" is so laughable and the amoung of focus and talent necessary to pull it off is so miniscule that its far far worse than amp was. And that got patched. Quickly. Because it trivialized Raid content. And Randy himself said that bosses were not intended to be killed in seconds because of a single item. I'd say the same could be same about a single skill.

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inb4 "if you don't like it, don't use it"
This argument is for anyone who wants to ignore the precedent set by things that were less broken, but patched.
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Old May 21st, 2013, 08:20 PM   #6
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Oh no, we are not turning another thread into a nerfing riot.

Just a wake up call drawing attention to the devs.
I hope.
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Old May 21st, 2013, 08:20 PM   #7
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Cant you SPLODE Hyperious?
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It is broken, but it is not even close to touching the Evil Smasher in term of broke-ness.

The Evil Smasher allowed every character to do this, making skill trees irrelevant in every way. And you could just go in and kill any Raid without even having to set anything up (besides of course the initial 2 minutes of dicking around with the Smasher). Then you went in and killed the Raid in literally 5 seconds.

I fully agree that it's broken. Hell, NKLOK caps, why doesn't this? But it's not even close to the Evil Smasher.
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Cant you SPLODE Hyperious?
Um. I believe it to be possible. THe shielding is an issue. If bots have shields hyperius doesnt, but then his is up he cant be sploded. The shields absorp a lot of damage. I widdles all the bots down to about 2% and popped one with full roid/rapier and it got hyperius to around 30%.

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I fully agree that it's broken. Hell, NKLOK caps, why doesn't this? But it's not even close to the Evil Smasher.
Well. I only say it because that required you use the weapon. But I suppose yes, in the way you put it youre correct.
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You can also draw los robutts into his arena with a low level singularity nade.

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