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Old July 21st, 2013, 03:05 PM   #1
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is it worth it i keep killing myself with it
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Old July 21st, 2013, 03:10 PM   #2
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I don't see why you made a separate thread for this when you asked it in your other one. Also, there is already quite a few threads asking this exact same thing where you will find all the same answers that will be posted in this one or your other one about it. Ultimately, only you can decide if it is worth it or not, everyone feels differently about it.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 03:45 PM   #3
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i found a class mod that adds 6 and i find im hitting myself much less now that its 11/5. whenever i take it off a switch it seems every time i melee i hit myself consecutively and nearly always kill myself whenever i use normal melee.

i certainly notice a big difference an im not just imagining it.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 03:59 PM   #4
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i found a class mod that adds 6 and i find im hitting myself much less now that its 11/5. whenever i take it off a switch it seems every time i melee i hit myself consecutively and nearly always kill myself whenever i use normal melee.

i certainly notice a big difference an im not just imagining it.
Regardless of 11/5 or 5/5 (or anything inbetween or less than those two values) it is always a 12% and has been proven so. You are just imagining it as being more due to how the human brain remembers unwanted occurrences or bad ones over good ones.

For example, if you sat in Sanctuary and swung wildly with the sole purpose of trying to bash your own brains in it would seem like you almost never hit yourself vice it happening all the time.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 07:26 PM   #5
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Regardless of 11/5 or 5/5 (or anything inbetween or less than those two values) it is always a 12% and has been proven so. You are just imagining it as being more due to how the human brain remembers unwanted occurrences or bad ones over good ones.

For example, if you sat in Sanctuary and swung wildly with the sole purpose of trying to bash your own brains in it would seem like you almost never hit yourself vice it happening all the time.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 07:41 PM   #6
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i found a class mod that adds 6 and i find im hitting myself much less now that its 11/5. whenever i take it off a switch it seems every time i melee i hit myself consecutively and nearly always kill myself whenever i use normal melee.

i certainly notice a big difference an im not just imagining it.
It's more to do with not swinging as much due to increased damage. I am having more fun without it a swinging wildly as a true rampager would
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Old July 21st, 2013, 07:52 PM   #7
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I am having more fun without it a swinging wildly as a true rampager would
That's the only reason I don't use StV anymore, I like to run around like the psychotic mass murderer Krieg is and swing my axe as I please (reads as: all the time).
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Old July 21st, 2013, 08:31 PM   #8
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I use it in my Mania Hellborn build. Since I have another source of healing besides on kill, I do not notice or mind the self hits that much.

I've noticed that people who primarily play by themselves often do not take it as they do not notice the power decrease that much and all the aggro is on them.

All the same, I take StV in every Krieg build that goes all the way down the mania tree. That huge boost in damage is just too good and I shake my head at people that forgo it.
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 08:54 AM   #9
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I've been using StV on my Psycho, and it seems like I only hit myself at the WORST possible moment - swinging my Grog Nozzle to get some healing from the last remaining Super Badass whatever, "Shutupshutup!!! Thwack!!" and down I go, and my pitiful Light the Fuse barely dents his remaining health before I blow up like a firecracker next to him

I still find it hard to drop though - it's just too much fun (Someday I'll learn that Krieg is not Zer0, and I can't play him the same way )
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 10:54 AM   #10
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Ive found its unnecessary with proper gear, roid sheild, or legendary class mod he swinds fast and in his rampage already gets a 500% mele boost
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