After couple of days killing Wotan, I haven’t seen any 4 dedicated guns. I think they accidentally removed Moonfire, Tiggs’ Boom, Kyb’s Wroth and Redistributor from drop pool.

Those M4 exclusive drops are part of Wotan’s dedicated loot pool. You can’t say you’ve gotten Zero dedicated drops when you are getting those.

The Takedown exclusives on the other hand … It’s looking like something got bungled when they split the shields and weapons between Wotan and the Valkyries. Has anyone seen the shields dropping from the Valks? I’ve run through only a few times myself and haven’t seen those either.

I have seen all shields on Valkyries. Just no guns from Wotan.

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I said in another post that farmable bosses (the kind you can kill and reload and kill again) are different monsters from Heck and Wotan where it takes a serious time commitment to kill them over and over and the drop rates should reflect the difference in engagement.

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the only drops anyone cares about from Wotan are the Redistributor and Kybs. Anything else dropping is not interesting and I am unconcerned with the precise language of what is happening we all know what folks mean.

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Ive gotten 1 0.m with… Rak movespeed? and then world drop trash… Unless backberner is their dedicated loot. I dont know why this drops for me on every takedown boss.

If u farm em over n over it eventually becomes purples n greens for some ppl.

Theres quite a bit of bugs and it seems ppl wanna invalidate alot of ppls experiences.

Like everythings def not working as notes said so… Consistently hotfix after hotfix for many.

What is ironic is when those items were still relevant they barely dropped. Now that they are forsaken it s a shower of antifreeze, rakk pack, good juju, servbot etc… :rofl:

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Yea, the backberner is one of the Takedown exclusives. So it seems the Valks are fine. So it’s only Wotan that’s broken.

Well, I’m interested in the Raging Bear COMs and the Eruptions … so not everyone is only interested in only those two weapons.

The problem is Wotan has Takedown exclusives and M4 exclusives in his loot pool making it so crowded that it’s extremely difficult to get what you’re looking for even if it was working correctly. However it appears that the Takedown loot in his pool is currently bugged making things worse.

I see the berner everywhere are u serious?! That thing haunts me… That and the nighthawkin and woodblocker…

I feel i need an exorcist

Edited for name.*

Not too mention a large portion of wotans drops are not scaled for m10… I never shoot the legs to avoid it cluttering up with m4 gear. The legs work as chests.

it is th recharge version it looks like the normal one but recharge instantly

Re-Charge Berner … not to be confused with the new M6 Backberner rocket launcher.

It’s actually not too bad at M4 and below. Like most items now. Nighthawkin was good too as well as the woodblocker after the last buff it got. Mayhem 2.0 kinda killed everything except the new stuff tho.

True, and that’s something they intend on fixing. However the legs don’t drop anything from the dedicated loot pool. World drops only. But it would be nice if those were scaled to your Mayhem level.

The entire thing is just wildly frustrating… We all accept bumps and hiccups along the way in any game but this is just poorly managed on every level. If I kicked my products out of my business without testing and retesting to make sure everything part works correctly I would be out of business so fast it wouldn’t be funny. I don’t expect perfection right out of the gate but I do expect a quality product.

Well I’m sure we will be watching the next BL show on Thursday and waiting to see what comes down in the hotfix notes.

If Gearbox think of us as an audience I would like them to visualise us and in recent history we are a changed room.

Prior to M2.0 we were sitting on the edge of our seats, leaning forward and paying attention. By the following Thursday we had sat back in our seats, still paying attention but somewhat less enthusiasically. Last week we perked up on reading the hotfix, shuffled forwards slightly in anticipation of applied requested fixes.

Today and in the run up to this Thursdays output, I feel we are sitting, slightly slouched with arms firmly crossed and expressions that are saying “Convince me”.

Something needs to go right with BL3 and it needs to be soon imo, I’m a glass half full kind of guy but I am feeling pretty bashed around these days.

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Couldn’t agree with you more. Well said.

Dude its honestly been since game launch we’ve seen them do the exact thing we want and then take it in the complete opposite direction. Given and taken away rinse and repeat. Guns, drop rates, builds, skills, and glitches. They made woton, made it easier, then added a button making three events out of one content. Idk whats going on internally but they need better direction and motivation cuz this company is aggravating me enough to just not pay for anything else.

I think they actually responded to the community with the changes made to MTD. Some of the events feel like stress testing for stuff we may see a more permanent version of down the line.

Stuff on Reddit showing how the loot boosting % had actually gone too far shows that some of the juggling needs to improve certainly.

Yes there has been a fair bit of swing on the pendulum over the past month and maybe the good intentions of keeping stuff fresh for lockdown was a step too far. Hopefully with the next hotfix and patch, some faith can be restored but as I said above, it’s got to happen soon.

Unfortunately I think I’m done till at least a year or two so the game I paid 60+30 dollars is finished :sob:

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You are not alone sir.