Death blossom kunais have a radius! Don’t throw them and then run at your target because they will hit you as well. On a related note, don’t throw them at an enemy in melee range or a wall for the same reason.
You get five DB throws per deception, so spread the love around.
You can use execute to hit surveyors with melee. You can also execute yourself off of a cliff, so always be aware of your surroundings.
Don’t spec into grim if you’re using a roid shield.
Deception increases all damage, not just melee. Have a hard target you’re trying to snipe? Throw out deception to the side, then take your best shot.
Low level sniper rifles with the Vladof barrel are the best for stacking critical ascension.

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  • As Zer0 has very little in the way of Self-healing, Transfusion Grenades are your best friends, especially if you manage to find a slag variant. Debuff the enemy AND heal yourself!
  • On the other hand, Tesla and Lightning Bolt grenade mods (as well as their legendary variants) are extremely handy for stripping your own shields to set up for a melee strike. Just be careful when you’re on low health or using Elemental bonuses such as from a Bone of the Ancients. Don’t want to kill yourself by accident!
  • As Jakobs tend to have high base damage AND critical bonuses, their Sniper Rifles and Shotguns are excellent choices for Deception bonuses, but be aware that outside of uniques, they can’t exploit elemental weaknesses well.
  • Anything that has Slagged as a title (usually Skags and Spiderants, but some psychos too,) are immune to the Slag debuff and resistant to Slag damage itself. However, Zer0’s Mark 0f Death will still debuff them. Mark them and take them out quickly!
  • When playing Co-op, Decepti0n can be a useful tool to help revive your allies while keeping the enemy from downing you as well.
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  • Killing blow is awesome, but unless your enemy has low health it is useless
  • Remember that Ambush and Backstab work Perfectly together when going into deception and hitting from behind.
  • Optics skill is not a bad choice if the weapon sways a little because it is better to sway around ones eyes and mouth than between ones head and his stomach

B0re makes you ignore bullet reflection. I don’t have to tell you how great this is.

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Of all the character that needs to break line of sight, a no-moxxi gun Zer0 is it. He is the penultimate character to practice this on. I would also recommend the Leg Hunter Com but that might be too limiting of a choice for a lot of people. Faster cool down rate equals more dps and durability over an extended period of time.

Always have a exit strategy, if you know you are about to be overwhelm (which happens) just back peddle away. Deception can be massively useful for that, always position yourself in a safer place, remember that you only need to survive for the next 14 seconds (11 with Leg Hunter).

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I’m liking these tips mate. How would you word them by stress the aspect you find most key?

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  • If you’re trying to run past a group of enemies, turn to your right
    or left, throw your hologram, turn back to your heading and proceed.
    This helps distance you from what they are shooting at. This tactic
    is useful in many ways.

  • When coming out from behind cover, throw your hologram behind cover and sneak out while invisible so you can take the first shot with a sniper while everyone is calm or at least thinking you’re still not in sight.

  • Conversely, when coming out of cover, throw your hologram out first, and go around the other side of the object .

  • Use execute to quickly move between targets even if you don’t instead
    to melee. This is great for speeding around the map.

  • Legendary turtoise shield is great with execute because execute will
    still rush you around.

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How deep in to UVHM have you effectively used the Legendary Tortoise? I suppose Health-Gating must come in super handy?

Can you give me a few scenarios mate? I’m thinking I can expand on it in to two tips/

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  • The Love Thumper can be a very good melee shield (as well as easy to obtain due to being a sidequest reward,) especially for players who aren’t used to the flow of combat of self-shield-stripping before a melee strike. On the flip side, because of the Love Thumper’s minutes-long delay, it is carries a huge cost to survivability. In addition, when playing Co-op, the nova will damage your allies so consider alternative melee shields.
  • Anything that causes novas (Obviously Nova Shields, but also the Love Thumper and the Hide of Terramorphous,) will set off barrels, which even in TVHM can be fatal. Know your arena, and destroy barrels pre-emptively if necessary.
  • If you’re teaming up with Gaige, Buck Up can either help you, or hurt you, depending on if you’re using a gun-centric or a melee-centric build respectively. Always talk to your teammates to get a better understanding of each other’s builds, and work together rather than accidentally tripping each other over.
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  • You don’t always need to strip your shields if you go melee. Sure, 'roid shields hit hard, but unless you are attacking Ultimate BadAsses or Bosses, most of the damage is overkill. With all the melee buffs that Zer0 can put behind Execute, he can certainly afford to not take advantage of one or two of them (including 'roid shields) when he needs to cut a bitch.
  • Dude, Grim is a great skill to have, despite what pure-melee build guides say. Not only does it help keep your shields up, but it also brings up Decepti0n sooner, in case you do need to make a quick exit.
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Many Must Fall will give you more Kunai to throw. Never execute without Deathmarking first.
Multiple Zer0s can put many Death Marks on something. Use this to brutalise bosses who give you trouble.
B0re. This is a hint in it’s own right.
Execute can be used to get closer to victims to shotgun their faces. This is a great as it sounds.
Never use the love thumper in coop. Your friends will hate you.
Ambush is always active when in Deception, so you don’t allways need to get behind them.
Anything can B0re, even the SWORDSPLOSION!!!
The Legendary Sniper Com is surprisingly good for Shotguns.

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Wrong. Guns that are pure splash damage, with a few exceptions, will not bore.

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I’d tend to disagree if trying to keep my shield stripped. Also, on this point, BA Rank can be a hindrance if you’ve pumped points into Shield Recharge Delay. Anyone who has ported their characters over onto current gen and haven’t reallocated these points might want to bear that in mind. :wink:

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Pure-melee builds don’t use Grim in favor for getting the Maylay shields’ 'roid bonus. That’s a reasonable exception if you can still survive while putting on the big hurt. But as this thread is about staying alive, my advice is still valid. Also, there is this bullet point that preceded the quote referenced:

You don’t always need to strip your shields if you go melee. Sure, 'roid shields hit hard, but unless you are attacking Ultimate BadAsses or Bosses, most of the damage is overkill. With all the melee buffs that Zer0 can put behind Execute, he can certainly afford to not take advantage of one or two of them (including 'roid shields) when he needs to cut a bitch.

Again, in terms of survival, Zer0 can Execute most mobs without 'roid shield bonuses, stripping wouldn’t be necessary. This is important to note when there are several mobs attacking at the same time; sometimes a little extra shield can soak up a hit or two to prevent FFYL mode. Unless you are going full-melee on Zer0 (i.e. making use of 'Roid shield bonuses), then Grim is good skill to keep you alive.

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Updated.

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For gun Zer0s: when not using singularity grenades to set up B0re shots, transfusion grenades - especially slag ones - are a valuable survival tool.

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For Sniper Zer0s make sure you have a gun that you can roll with up close as well. I made the mistake many times of not getting a better shotty/pistol while levelig in UVHM and it can be a pain. I prefer Hyperion and Jakob’s Shotguns/Vladoff Pistols (for non legendaries/uniques obviously).

Also have a Bee shield but do not fall in love with it.

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Update with a few additions.

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May I post some ideas ?

  • Learn the Battlefield. Melee Zer0 should know everything about the field he’s going throught… Every wall, rocks, any obstacles that could make the difference between a successful Execute and a FFYL…

  • Watch out Elemental Barrels ! Any bullet flying around you could make them explode and put you in FFYL, even if you’re in Decepti0n.

  • Never throw Kunais then do an Execute immediatly after… You should be surprised by your Kunai’s ability to take you down yourself !

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I just see all of 30 tips in this post. So, where are the remaining 20 tips? But anyway, such the tips are still very helpful to read. Cheers!

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