A few BL questions

Borderlands 2 BL2 General Discussion
#2

1: yes, Grenades have parts, they determin the delivery mechanish, the fuse time, the radius and damage, but they don’t get “manufacturer parts” to compare…they simply have good or bad stats

2: All unique guns (Legendaries, uniques, seraphs, Pearls) have a fixed barrel, and almost all Legendaries have their manufacturer matched barrel (Exceptions being a few shotguns, the Ogre, Hammer Buster and maybe one or 2 others)

While all uniques have a fixed barrel, most don’t have a MATCHING barrel (like I said, except for legendaries)

All other parts are un-fixed: any unique can have any accessory, sight, stock, grip or exhaust (for RL)

Some guns have special rules: The striker will always spawn with one of the strongest sights available (never Torgue), the Buffalo and Elephant gun will never spawn with a scope, the Rapier will always spawn with a blade, but it will not override a possible accessory (Same with the Law). Maliwan guns will ALWAYS have an element, All Torgue guns will be Explosive, Jakobs guns are Never elemental (except for a few oddballs) Some have locked elements. All Moxxi guns will always be elemental, even the non-Maliwan ones. The Infinity cannot spawn with Slag.

…I can’t think of other things right now. If you have specific questions though, don’t hesitate :slight_smile:

#3

Thanks for the quick reply, I’m definitely going to have my work cut out for me with this. I’m trying to minimise any kind of input errors by only making it possible to select things which can actually happen in game. A rethink of how I put this together is in order I think.

#4

You can click on the various links in my ‘signature’ for info about Gun Prefixes, Parts and even Max Stats. Once you get to the Max Stats page ( a link to the old forums), clicking on a category (example: Pistols, Class Mods, Shields, etc.) will take you to a Google docs browser-based spreadsheet of sorts that shows how some of the parts affect the item’s stats.

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Gun Prefixes | Gun Parts | Max Stats
Maya OP8 | Banshee RR / NRR | Binder | Cat | Nurse | Siren | Trickster B / M

#5

A few shortcuts:

Every Manufacturer makes Pistols
ARs are made by Dahl, Vladof, Jakobs, Torgue and Bandit
SMGs: Hyperion, Maliwan, Tediore, Bandit and Dahl
Shotguns: Jakobs, Torgue, Tediore, Hyperion, Bandit
Snipers: Dahl, Vladof, Jakobs, Hyperion, Maliwan
RL: Bandit, Torgue, Tediore, Maliwan, Vladof

A gun can spawn with a grip/stock/Barrel from one of the manufacturer who makes that kind of gun, or with the E-tech barrel.

Exceptions: Vladof makes 2 different AR barrels
Vladof and Jakobs Pistols cannot spawn with Tediore grips
jakobs pistols cannot spawn with Vladof barrels
Vladof pistols cannot spawn with a Bandit grip
Torgue and Jakobs guns cannot spawn with the E-tech barrel (except for the swordsplosion)

#6

Thanks for all the info guys, it’s VERY much appreciated.

@Poisd2Strike : You must have put a hell of a lot of work into all that, and it’s going to come in very handy. I’ve actually been using those weapons parts images for a while now but never knew who made them, so thanks a ton for those. And the prefixes are going to come in incredibly handy too

@Chuck80 : Those shortcuts actually helped me see this a little clearer, I’m pretty sure of how I’m going to make it work now, the only bit I’m still debating is how to work in the exceptions you mentioned, should be a fairly easy work around if there are only a few of them though.

#7

Or explosive.

#8

Yo hold up, did YOU make the gun parts guide or do you just collect them?

#9

Well, I didn’t actually create the Max Stats Google Doc spreadsheet. The link in my ‘signature’ simply redirects to a thread on the old forums. But yes, someone did put a lot of work into it.

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Gun Prefixes | Gun Parts | Max Stats
Maya OP8 | Banshee RR / NRR | Binder | Cat | Nurse | Siren | Trickster B / M

#10

No, I wasn’t the author of the Gun Parts Guide, Gun Prefixes or Max Stats. I just use them for references.

Forum ID: Poisd2Strike
GT: Poisd2Strike
Trades: http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/poisd2strikes-humble-shop/367700
Gun Prefixes | Gun Parts | Max Stats
Maya OP8 | Banshee RR / NRR | Binder | Cat | Nurse | Siren | Trickster B / M

#11

Ah in that case, thank you for pointing me in their direction, they’re going to come in very useful.

#12

Not Very Protip: load those gun parts images onto your phone. It’s a handy-dandy reference in the palm of your hand.

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#13

Max Stats list is Zoo, Prefix list is Loot turtle’s work, parts guide comes from some guy on Reddit, don’t remember his name.

#14

Another quick question to add to the list, how many bosses are there that can spawn in multiple places? (I’m thinking mainly their regular area and Digistruct Peak, but there may be other places I haven’t thought of)

Also, does anybody know if there is an exhaustive list of bosses in BL2 anywhere?. I’ve checked a few places (mainly the wiki), but I’m positive there are still a few missing from the list.

#15

As far as I know, unique bosses (e.g. Doc Mercy, Scorch, Mad Mike, et. al.) can only spawn in one place outside of the Peak.Ultimate Badasses can spawn anywhere though, but they’re not unique bosses.

#16

Savage Lee can spawn in his normal place or behind the fast travel in TH:Divide

#17

:dukefp: Forgot about him. I think he’s the only one though.

#18

King Mong has a couple spawn locations in the Eridium Blight. There’s the one right past the gate, as well as one down by the pipe you need to walk on for the challenge. It’s to the right after you cross the bridge towards Sawtooth.

#19

Extra points for being a bonus instead of an alternate spawn location

#20

Yes, King Mong has three spawn options, with an equal (I believe) chance to occur. By the map exit to Arid Nexus, near the map exit to Hero’s Pass, or not at all. One of these options procs every time you Save/Quit in Eridium Blight. King Mong can never appear twice on the map on one run. Savage Lee, on the other hand, can randomly spawn in on of two areas behind the Fast Travel, and will always spawn in the Marrowfields, making him the only unique enemy with simultaneous duplicates outside of Digi Peak.

#21

Thanks for the replies guys, forgot about Savage Lee. It’s actually just the ones with different named locations I’m after , so the location for both Savage Lee’s would be TH - Divide, both King Mong’s spawn points would be Eridium Blight etc. But someone like Scorch can appear in both Frostburn Canyon and Digistruct Peak). I’m guessing there actually isn’t any aside from the Digistruct Peak ones.

In which case, does anybody have a list of bosses that appear in Digistruct Peak as well as elsewhere. I’ve only just unlocked OP7 (Haven’t finished the peak at OP7 yet, ran out of ammo and got taken out by the damn surveyors…poor strategy on my part), so past OP6 I’m not really sure who else gets added.