Too bad the F2P Evolve model is a sinking ship and theyre still trying to throw the anchor overboard too.
Battleborn F2P may bring people in, but it needs players to stay. Im sure having, say, 5000 players join the game wld be fantastic, but if only 50 stay longer then a month then what was the point of being excited about the 5000?
Its too early for Battleborn to be looking at F2P, the earliest they cld, wld be after the 1 year mark and all the season pass jargen comes out.
Ill say it now so i can say “i told you so” if i get the opportunity, F2P wont save battleborn.
If BB was F2P, whats guna bring players in over League, Dota, or heroes of the storm? What cld we change to get people to stay? These are heavier questions to ponder.
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I agree, the poor should sell their babies as food. I’d buy that.
Wait, oh
Whoops.
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I think we can all agree on that mate 
Actually, all valid points. And well made. But what free game has legendary’s drop as easily as story in this game? If they went free, I’d expect the drop rates to drop like a damn base at a tween concert. Repeatedly until we’re all crying and begging for it to stop.
I almost always get legendary’s lately in hc advanced. I don’t normally play story, but I mean… It went from 50 advanced Renegade with zero… To getting four in a row on three runs. There’s a few month gap between those two… I think I lost my point. I’m tired, sorry.
The point was something about how drop rates would have to be worse than the current loot packs to go free, especially if you up the income. My average income per match has been 500 lately, so I could see that being exploited easily.
The rambles… Apologies.
Ah, that makes more sense. 
Sorry for the sass, I just wanted to add some flavour to the post, ya know?
Im very bored…
First off:
This idea is a great one, but I see no reason why not to open a vein. It’s easy and simple, plus all the vampires in the crowd get to eat something for once. They must be getti-
Oh. That was a metaphor. Sorry.
But aside from my cheap sarcasm, this plan has everything going for it. My only wants or changes to it would be to make it so that there would be more bang for your buck. I mean, in it’s current state I would not buy the game for 8 missions of campaign and a upcoming DLC mission for $60. Even $20-$30 seems a bit much. So rather, how about this: $30 for the 8 missions and their multi-player, but make the free version feel more like a demo. You only can play the starters and rather than having a CR and title on your name card it says something like “Demo Player”. This way they feel as if buying the game is neccesary. Plus, perhaps get another chapter of campaign or something along those lines. We need more lore on the varelsi, and frankly I want more varelsi-themed missions based on exploration, such as the algorithm or the sentinel.
However, there will still be other issues, such as the fact that Galilea by herself is ungodly overpowered (Getting hit with a shieldstun is instant guaranteed death for almost all characters at close range) while ISIC’s rotating wards can barely stand up straight. Matchmaking also is a fickle little b!tch most of the time, so why not revamp that too. Certain legendary gear peices are far too unversatile compared to other ones (Voxis Core vs. Arcship Buoy), so we would need to buff those too.
Other than those I believe your plan is set to rebuild battleborn from the ground up in at least a day or two. So, this brings me to my favorite part of a post of mine:
Go ahead and point out every flaw you can find. It amuses me more than anything else.
As long as the Pay Wall won’t retro-actively hit Players that already got the game in some way, it’s fine to me.
More Players are always welcome.
We all were new Players at some point, don’t ever forget this fact.
Only ■■■■ drops from boxes anyway hah!
I don’t know what you mean by “boxes”… You can get good loot from chests because of the game’s innovative loot/shard system where any color can be useful depending on the situation. If you mean loot packs, there are some great legendaries in them (Vampiric Vestment, Friction Fizz etc.), plus what I said above. In most games with loot, you don’t even look at a white/green/blue type after you’ve played for awhile.
lots of great ideas OP. I hope gearbox is listening and taking notes.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE battleborn, and is honestly my GOTY so far. It just makes me sad so few are playing and unwilling to give it a chance.
BUT as an individual, I feel as if I have done all I can do for the game. bought the season pass, supported it from day one, championed the game on other forums to get others interested, got one of my RL friends to purchase it and play with me…
but I can’t do much more than wait. It is now Sunday morning, (no football on yet) prime time for gaming, and I am searching for meltdown, my favorite mode. I found a full team in 3 minutes, which is great. we then searched for a team to compete against for 4 minutes. at 7 minutes, a player had enough and dropped out. Now we are searching to replace that player…but another player dropped because it is taking so long. I am approaching 10 minutes of searching for a meltdown game on sunday morning as of this writing and am about to give up.
And you know what? even if we found a game, there is a 90% chance that one of 3 things will happen: 1) one team will get completely stomped and surrender 2) somone will AFK or quit out 3) one team will surrender 6 minutes in for seemingly no reason.
I just don’t know what else to do but move on until Gearbox does something to add more players. But if I move on, then I am just contributing to the problem, and I definitely don’t want that. But I have been playing since day 1, logged hundreds of hours completed all lore challenges and got my moneys worth. so whatever I guess.
It is now 12 minutes of searching for a meltdown match and I am the only player, the others already left 
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I am in quite literally your exact same situation.
Luckily, I don’t have all the lore challenges / characters mastered yet, but getting fairly close.
Been unable to find Meltdown / Capture since Friday.
Seeing MANY of the same players in matches.
It makes me sad…such a brilliant, deep, fun, beautiful, amazing game!
How about Overwatch players?
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You want to feed babies to Overwatch players?! 
No Overwatch players already do that, I was thinking of turning the tables.
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Good post. 
I agree with most of your points, and all of them have been discussed internally here at the studio. There’s not much more I can say at this time, but we are (at least) considering improvements for everything you’ve mentioned.
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Confirmed. Pretty much the same here. Almost all lore challenges done. Now the guys need to level. I use almost all the same items for every person so more loot won’t make a difference. I’ve done all there is a couple of times and now I sit and play PVP only to get angry messages from DBAGS who have nothing better to do with their time. When titanfall came out there was really only PVP and a couple maps. I could sit and play that all day long, and I did for months. There is more to this game but it kind of feels boring. I’m not sure why Titanfall didn’t give me the same bored feeling as this. Maybe it’s the angry messages or something. IDK.