Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#41
Yo screw that. I’d at least like an optimization patch. Hell id Software released a 1.3.1 patch for Doom3 after vista came out which was long after it’s life cycle. Someone start a petition for support or something. I’d do it but I’m at work
Gulfwulf
(Cast Iron Chef (R.I.P.))
#42
Weird. I play with two others who also have Windows 10 installed and we haven’t noticed any discernible performance decreases.
Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#43
Did you guys upgrade or clean install? If you upgrade all your runtimes and repositories should have saved, if not steam has to install them again. Does it for tps but not bl2 so my guess is it’d be as simple as patching it to run the repositories and runtimes upon installation
DSs
#44
I did a fresh install. But I’m pretty sure even with the upgrade Steam will re-run runtimes anyway, thus messing everything all the same.
Gulfwulf
(Cast Iron Chef (R.I.P.))
#45
Upgrade. We tried it on one of my laptops first, then did the other laptop and the desktops. Windows 10 did change some settings, but we got most of them squared away again. Normally we do a clean install, but it seems Microsoft has learned from previous debacles and made the upgrade process fairly painless.
Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#46
I did a fresh install too and the only game that did not install the direct runtimes and c++ redistributables was bl2
DSs
#47
I will probably try to upgrade(you can roll back, apparently) to check it out.
Or not. Kind of tired to dance with OS/software/etc. 
Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#48
Eh whichever you wanna do amigo, if you do switch back and then do a proper upgrade let me know how it goes.
DSs
#49
Well, I’ve upgraded, and so far it’s as good as on W7 or near, at least.
However, a W10 has received some updates, plus Nvidia has recently released new drivers. So maybe it’s not the upgrade.
Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#50
Hmmm. So you’re back on Win7? Or are you on Win10. I’m going to assume you rolled back to Win7, the upgraded instead of clean installed and that fixed the issue for you? That’s interesting.
Jeffybug
(Jeffybug)
#51
Thanks for the info on BL2 for W10. It seems like some folks are having issues and some are not. Letting the team know, and I’ll follow up if they’re requesting any additional info.
Gulfwulf
(Cast Iron Chef (R.I.P.))
#52
I’m getting some graphical flickering in Frostburn. Basically the mountains flicker like there’s some z-fighting going on or something to that effect. Other than that, I haven’t run into any issues. I’m using the latest nVidia driver.
Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#53
Thanks for following up on this Jeff.
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johnrr6
(Johnrr6)
#54
GTX 780
I updated my NVidia drivers…
Rebuilt the game files cache in Steam…
Set PhysX to low
And BL2 seems…OK now.
But performance was terrible at first until I did that.
In fact…in retrospect…Win 10 is an improvement overall over Win 8.1, but not by much.
In the end I am left with an empty feeling about it. I’m just like…MEH! Much to do about nothing. Win 7 was such a wonderful operating system. Win 10 still feels to me like it needs a LOT more if it is to truly entice someone away from Win 7. YMMV
Gulfwulf
(Cast Iron Chef (R.I.P.))
#56
We only upgraded because it was free.
DSs
#57
Clean-installed W7, then upgraded to W10, yes.
It’s “mostly” fixed. FPS are still lower, but not drastically lower, like before. Just 5-7 fps lower(in some areas this brings the fps below 60, which is uncomfortable).
At this point, I think nothing can be done with it. W10 has the W8.1 core, and W8.1 is performing worse than W7 in the CPU-bound games.
Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#58
I’ve noticed all my games have performance enhancements with win10. Just bl2 performs like crap. Farcry4 at ultra averages 80fps at all times, but bl2 can’t handle max at all times with max settings? Seems odd to me ya know?
DSs
#59
Well, Far Cry 4 is using modified CryEngine, which is very, very GPU-bound. And GPU-bound games are performing (generally)better on W8.1 and thus on W10, as well.
Spunky117
(The guy that Punches everything)
#60
Yes but even CPU bound games like Minecraft have gotten a boost in performance. Especially noticeable at 32 chunk render distance. All the CPU benchmarking I’ve done too has increased. But even TPS performs fine which, is the same as bl2. No matter how you slice the pie it’s weird as hell