Some mild pre-forming is fun/interesting. Mebbe 2-3 ppl tops. People that join public queue in 5-man pre-mades specifically to pubstomp are poison for the game though. It breaks matchmaking and it’s not fun to play against, even if you win against it. Like… oh… no ■■■■ you’re more effective when you’re a 5-man focusing down healers in voice coordinated strikes and doing perfectly time CC chains against people who don’t know each other? Who could have guessed? People who want to play that way should want to play against others who are playing the same way… not go trying to destroy people trying to enjoy a PUG. The sad truth is that some people don’t want a challenge, they want to pubstomp for whatever messed up psychological reason… iunno and I can’t fathom the logic behind it.
What really gets me is the dogshit sportsmanship displayed by some of these pre-mades. Last night my group, which was actually pretty solid for a 100% PUG, gets a pre-made and one of our guys D/Cs, so it’s 4 pugs vs 5 pre-made in Capture and they’re taunting after every single kill, without fail, no matter what. Ganked you in a 2 on 1? It’s 5 on 3 cuz you have an afk and a disconnect? Totally legit kills for sure. Better taunt that ■■■■ buddy! You earned it! That ■■■■’s garbage and it’d do nothing but discourage people who are testing the PVP waters for the first time. I’m all for taunts but there’s an etiquette to it; you can do it in a fun, playful, cool way or you can do it in a douchey, provoking, pathetic way. Taunting pugs you gank in coordinated strikes with your 5man wank-team falls under the pathetic category and it’s just toxic.
There should be a 3 man cap on how large a team can queue for public matches and “Team Match” queue for 4-5 mans. It would solve so many problems with PVP right now and it wouldn’t hurt queue times much. If anything, it would help because new players wouldn’t be discouraged by these unsporting groups. 2-3 pre-formed per team max is just the right amount to ensure matchmaking can properly assign the remain spots to keep matches interesting. I have a competitive mindset but I enjoy the challenge of random PUGs. I’d like to know that if I queue public matches, I’ll get public matches and that if I want as competitive team challenge, I’ll get a competitive team challenge.