Alani is why I am quiting the game

Battleborn Battleborn Competitive Multiplayer Discussion
#15

start playing in private, competitive matches. then you can ban broken compositions to where people have to outplay you, rather than use the flavor of the day. i personally am not one to side with basically everyone else in the thread. she is still the strongest character overall in the entire game, and i challenge anyone to statistically counter that argument. it seems like most people counter any argument about character balance by talking about their personal experience with how they have countered an alani or x character with x character. what people fail to realize is that they countered the alani user, and not alani. they outplayed the alani user, in other words.

the only thing that matters in a discussion about character balance is the potential of the character. other than, and this open for debate, kelvin’s stun, alani has the best stun in the game. i personally think she has the best stun in the game. this game is ALMOST exclusively about cc and aoe. alani has the best cc in the game, and does have great lane clear and level potential.

what makes her also factually overpowered is her cooldown potential. i tried to make a clip, but recorded it a second too late because i didnt think to until it was too late. i teleported to an alani and dropped an ult on her and was bubbled immediately, which is fine. once i landed, my shield was broken so i teleported directly to her again. by that time she had self healed quite a bit, but i was still able to kill her. after she was dead i was bubbled again as she died. i walked away, but it was 2x being hard cc with the best stun in the game within 5 seconds.

#16

Phoebe has the highest base DPS and longest slow in the game.

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#17

Thank you slif for being the voice of reason once again

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#18

Are you kidding me?!

Alani is slow and squishy as hell with low damage output.

He strength is geyser and riptide launching and pushing people around for lane control.

Even when she does bubble someone the team never takes advantage of it by focusing on them so its borderline pointless.

She can be a pain to FINISH OFF, but she’s digustingly easy to drive off.

She’s a joke to rangeea like thorn Toby and marquis

And if you avoid being bubbled or waved you can tear her apart in close range since she has no way to escape .

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#19

3 second stun with amplified damage from all sources lifting you up like a pinata > any duration of slow
phoebe is an assassin. alani is a support. alani is comparable to ambra and reyna, though neither has a stun til ambra at level 10 in her ult. alani is not comparable to any other character in the game, in reality, which cannot be said about any other character in the game. she blurs the lines more than any other character, with the exception of galilea

#20

The bind from Geyser does not last 3 seconds. Alani’s DPS is also significantly lower than Phoebe’s, and at least half the roster

No two characters in BB are comparable, they’re all unique which is kinda the point and what makes the game great. I’d ask you to elaborare, but it seems that you refuse to be convinced otherwise.

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#21

The only way that’s possible (assuming the facts are as you stated) is if she used her ultimate and was level 10. There’s a helix that resets cooldowns when her ultimate is used. I agree she has too much CD (surprised the left it alone) but it isn’t THAT strong.

At any rate, I’d take Kelvin’s stun over hers every time.

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#22

you are out of the fight and able to be damaged for 3 full seconds. i will make a video if i must, but im pretty sure that this has already been established multiple times. her dps is supposed to be way lower than an assassin’s. i wasnt trying to say that she is the strongest in every single category. obviously she cant tank like boldur. i was saying that, overall, she is statistically the strongest character in the game as far as capabilities are concerned.

without question, alani can heal someone like me (orendi or phoebe) to full health from the brink of death in an instant. her stun is unlike every other stun in the game in that it lifts you up for everyone to damage, and makes you take amplified damage during this time. no other character can spam hard cc the way she can either, and hard cc is obviously the strongest thing in the game.

of course im willing to be convinced. they are all very unique, but also very comparable. orendi and mike are very different, yet pretty similar. they fulfill the same role, and i would not really say that one is leaps and bounds more capable than the other. orendi can use her skills more often and is slightly more mobile, but pillars take time to ignite, whereas nades are instant. one burns you before and one burns you after. those are your lane clear champs. they are very unique, but yet neither is clearly way stronger than the other.
ambra and reyna are both hybrid supports. one can have direct health available at all times, while one has to choose to overshield you, with healing later on. they both do around the same amount of damage, with reyna probably doing slightly more. although they are extremely different, their core capabilities are very comparable. that is what i am referring to when i say they are comparable: their ability to perform their roles compared to other characters with a similar role.

alani is also a support hybrid. so she can burst heal, but it requires her to do some things first, which is a great mechanic compared to the brokenness of miko. but being able to burst heal to the degree that a player can go from dead to full health in the blink of an eye is not comparable to the capabilities of any support in the game. no other hybrid support in the game has hard cc in their base kit. alani obviously does. so she can out dps reyna and ambra, has a slow unlike either of them, and has an incredible stun unlike either of them. and her cooldown potential is leaps and bounds above everyone in the game

#23

Actually Alani is directly.comparable to Orendi. Almost the same moves just different effect.

#24

Not quite

She can’t just heal on command like others. She can only heal with full osmosis. Buy since she has to be in the thick of battle to get osmosis, she more likely than not has to use the heal on her own squishy self rather than allies.

Her geyser does hold you but unless the person bubbled is squishy anyway, she can’t really take advantage of it by herself.

Her DPS IS way lower than an assassins. Assuming you didn’t choose all the helixes to buff torrent damage instead of cool down or healing. In which case she stops being a healer or controller to be DPS. She can only do one thing at a time, not everything at once. And even then she won’t match the DPS of actual assassins.

Also she can’t spam hard cc like say Galilea because like Orendis shadow fire pillar, its actually challenging to hit a moving target with geyser.

As for alanis heals the sheer amount of heal is to offset how infrequent the heals actually are. You can’t rely on alani heals due to circumstances. She can’t just throw it out on command whenever she wants.

#25

Her bubble needs a huge rework, it’s impossible to see, or change her helix with the cooldown on hit as that one is better than 3 Chrono Keys at once. her damage output is not that good though but her CC spam is impossible to do anything about. She is still a bit too strong but not as bad as before, and if you looked yesterday, all teams had an Alani and she was almost first pick every time, that shows how good she still is.

#26

For real? You are going to have 1 character make you rage and sell the game? My guess is that you are probably facing off against a good Alani player. It is just ridiculous how many people are STILL complaining about Alani being OP. Ok, then let’s nerf her until she is completely useless why don’t we?! Let’s make her so terrible to the point that people are going to then complain about another character being OP and nerf them to the point of pathetic. The cycle will just continue. Take a break from PvP and go play some story mode. It is a good way to get your mind off of things. Otherwise, just put the controller down and go do something else or play a different game. All I can say now is that I REALLY hope Pendles does not get the same attitude just like Alani did even after 2-3 nerfs.

#27

i’ve killed an alani with ambra many times. alani ain’ the problem.

#28

I was playing last night and a good Alani player managed to keep herself alive in a 1v3 . . . I know she just got nerfed but god damn is she broken.

#29

Props for Thorn :two_hearts:

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#30

why were three of you on Alani?

#31

he and a phoebe were getting mid thrall on overgrowth

#32

Alani can be hard countered by snipers and skirmishers since both can get high damage on her and she can’t do much back

#33

Galilea has an instant cast, vacuuming, silencing, aoe skill that also causes players to take more damage, plus much higher DPS AND another instant cast ranged stun. In fact, plenty of people have CC that’s not as strong but is MUCH easier to land AND have the ability to capitalize on it to a greater degree because of their higher DPS.

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#34

galilea still needs attention