#41

That’s the point, she’s not supposed to outheal the damage dealers in that fashion, it was quite common to see and frankly quite annoying.

#42

Clearly we’ve never played together.

#43

attikus is a tank not a damage dealer. As it stands right now Alani is right where El Dragon was before this recent buff they gave him. Alani is the worst character in the game right now. Also her damage buffs were whatever. Now she can’t kill tanks which i dont really care about. If the enemy team has two tanks post nerf alani can’t really do anything about it. But now if either of those tanks target her she’ll die instantly which isn’t right. Tanks aren’t meant to do damage. They’re supposed to maintain presence on the battlefield and draw enemy fire aswell as dose out the cc effects. As far as I’m concerned the only characters that should have any CC is tanks.

#44

so she can’t defend herself, she can’t use her skills, she can’t heal teammates, she can’t get away…remind me what that word for that is again? Because ya know, for some reason, balanced isn’t the first one that comes to mind. Im really rather tired of everyone thinking of supports as some weak little damsel in distress type character that can’t do anything on their own and has to be babied by their team just to survive

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#45

which version of the game do you play where he is everywhere? cuz he aint on ps4. not anymore at least.

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#46

no escape move, heal nerfed to the point it’s the worst heal in the game, doesn’t have damage. Why exactly does this look balanced to people?

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#47

Simple those that didn’t like a char are happy when they get nerfed in the ground. Wait till the eventually nerf boulder and see how many celebrate. It won’t matter what state the char is actually in

#48

THIS. So true, but hey, keep the nerfs coming! :expressionless:

#49

My download has yet to finish, so I cannot confirm these assumptions from support mains and/or alani mains until I get toplay the updated version. But from the games I player with her before the nerf, unless I did something really stupid or didn’t pay attention or out of reach of someone then there wasn’t much dying done with her around and I’m an average Alani at best whenever I decide to actually play her. I understand she’s a rescue healer, but it was getting ridiculous. As a healer, yes you’re supposed to make sure/attempt to make sure your team doesn’t die, the thing was she was so Meta that she was on almost every team and was rescuing nearly any and everyone possible.

My point being, yes she should be able to heal, her moveset was fine, the fact that she did as much rescue healing as she was doing was getting to be a pain in the ass and I’m glad it took a nerf. Now the support meta will hopefully swap over to other support characters now that none of them are overwhelming, as you and a few other Alani mains have pointed out her healing isn’t jack anymore.

You know what I did with Benedict to cure his lack of max health? I stacked Max health. Me and many other Benedict’s. Now that Alani’s role as healer is in jepordy, now the Alani mains will adjust their strats to stay Alani mains. stack heal power to make her healing better, leave the attack damage and other gear behind that doesn’t buff her healing stats.

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#50

cough cough :slight_smile:

agree with you, Benny is in a good place right now where if someone is good with his movement and can hit his rockets then he’s strong, but for the most part he can get punished very easily and has a lot of counters!

As for Alani, she can still heal for a good amount, just not a ridiculous amount. This nerf puts her even with Reyna and that’s how it should be!

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#51

I haven’t played with you enough to know, though I would love to see your skill :smiley: I love Benedict fun like that

I do know you play well and frequently and judging from this post, then yes, she’s in a nice spot then. She’s been brought back to earth because she was quite OP even if the players playing as her didn’t realize how good she was.

#52

I can’t even with that -_-

#53

Then you’re just a person who mains a character and cannot stand that at least some portion of the community desired these nerfs and you might be taking it a bit too personally. If you main a character, don’t complain, adjust and be the character main.

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#54

Yeah we only played against eachother once and we were both Benedict, I only out-damaged you by a few thousand, but took a lot more damage (which suggests I need to get dodging a bit more) :stuck_out_tongue:

Most definitely, the heals she could put out were like 1500+ which put her way over what Reyna could do (also bearing in mind Reyna’s comes from a skill with a cooldown), all the while having a Gyser heal, which could be used offensively for a nice stun, an easy to hit slow/damage wave, and a large radius ult! Reyna had a priority target and a pistol :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: Yes @Garrus_Sniper we can play together more… once you’ve downloaded the patch :slight_smile:

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#55

Alani still functions quite well as a rescuer, she just doesn’t have a ridiculous single target heal. I don’t mind the wellspring Nerf, if one wants to heal more with it take the helix that increases it or a piece of healing gear. If not, she still has a really good aoe heal with geyser. As for no escape? She has kinetic diffusion which increases her survivability (and my annoyance when trying to kill her)

It’s a little early to say this, but i highly doubt that she is the worst.

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#56

Why are people complaining so much about the Alani nerfs? SHE WAS TOO GOOD PEOPLE! All her damage, CC, healing, and survivability was crazy. She was a top pick in almost any competitive game next to KU. I’m sure she’s not as bad as people make her out to be. Maybe this time she’ll fill in her intended role as a rescuer.

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#57

you do realize reyna has utility to go along with those heals right? reyna has damage buff, overshields etc. etc.

to say alanis healing should be on par with reynas healing without any of that additional utility and that’s “the way it should be” like that’s some sort of fact? ya, I think Lucio from OW puts it best, I can’t even take you seriously right now

#58

Utility, all she has is the overshield that is on a cooldown. And a damage amp that really isn’t all that great on its own. What utility does Reyna have? I would love to know. Besides running the opposite direction and her ult (which leaves her a nice big sitting duck for all of 5 seconds)?

Your taking me seriously has nothing to do with the conversation, if you’re just unhappy about the nerfs, sorry, but Alani has much more abilities to increase her survivability over Reyna. She can ride her wave for a speed increase and slow on enemies, she can throw down a geyser to heal herself and CC enemies and can heal herself naturally without a cooldown. Her “need to hit enemies to gain stacks” isn’t a hinderance since the majority of the characters she has to sling water at have hit boxes much larger than her own, she can build them off of minion waves, enemy buildables AND sentries.

You’re complaining because she’s not OP anymore, or as strong as she was, either way. My earlier answer remains the same, either find a new main or adjust and continue to be an Alani main. be the best healer Alani, because the devs have spoken.

#59

Calling her the worst character in the game is incredibly drastic. She still has good aoe damage, and hard cc. Her late game is still extremely good. She can still do burst healing from distance which is very valuable. The biggest issue to me is that her early game is frighteningly bad right now. With this wellspring buff, you almost have to take the extra healing at level 3 causing you to miss out on pressure wash. This forces Alani to put herself in more dangerous positions to try and get osmosis which she can’t get out of anywhere near as easy anymore. It hurts her ability to get random stacks from just firing down lane which hurts her healing teammates and survivability. Lastly it hinders her ability to hit minion waves from distance which leads to less XP, which means slower leveling, and she desperately needs to level fast. She’s no longer the best healer. I think this nerf was all about evening the playing field between the supports. I think they were a little harsh on Alani, but she’s not useless. Oh and attikus is not a real tank.

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#60

Or the best damaging Alani is also a choice :slight_smile: just saying ya could forgo more healing and focus damage