An Update to Battleborn is Rolling Out Today (6/14/16)

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#29

I thought of these as well, but they still wont work either. It is still a hugely defensible spot. They can just peek around, do some damage and fall back, then switch attackers while the other heals up.

I would say remove the wall and drop the entrance so the sentry can attack the entrance if needed. The big cheese is the ability to shoot from there without the sentry hitting it. Maybe even raising the ground a bit as well so the change isnt as big, as big changes in map or structures tend to have downstream effects.

The way it is now only makes the area a kill zone in advantage of those occupying the supply room which, previously, was able to be cleared by coordinated attack from both sides. 1 side can be closed by 2 people, leaving 3 for the other which with the right team is plenty.

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#30

This seems like an odd way of “fixing” things, as no matter what get’s done… the community just comes out with a different way to cheese the sentry’s because, and I’ll use capitol letters here to make a point, THE SENTRY IS NOT ABLE TO DEFEND ITSELF PROPERLY.

It wasn’t able to shoot across the map, it’s not able to attack people in the cave to the sides, it’s constantly confused about who it should be attacking, it won’t lead moving characters, it can’t turn fast enough to hit strafers, it gets confused about the “backdooring” (which really is just a way to stop players from noticing you are attacking it, not a problem in itself), and it gets taken out by being blown up from the top room at the end. Now it also gets jump shotted, who would have guessed?

The problem with the sentry’s is not the layout, but it’s ability to defend itself. Change whatever you want, the next cheese will just use the next structure to cheese it.

The core issue here is that one person, who eludes the player characters, can sit in the back near the shard area and just shoot the things feet to death no problem… or sit on the health station and shoot it’s head. No matter what you do to the actual map, the sentry itself is the problem.

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#31

Agreed. Alas, geometry changes are far easier to implement than AI fixes, even if they don’t solve the core issue.

I hope the devs are looking at the AI behaviour and overall vulnerability of sentries in incursion maps (particularly in overgrowth) because it feels to me that a lot of games are being decided not by who pushes better but by who cheeses better and for me that’s pretty demoralising.

#32

They buffed his shield i dont know if they did this before but he shield skill got buffed from 510 to 850.

#33

Mmmmmm. Most of the updates are positives.

I’m pretty happy about the economy changes, it’s lame having two sets of gear for overgrowth vs any other map in the game.

As far as sentry AI is concerned… they could have stopped a lot of the problems by making the sentry shield require minions to dismantle or at least take the first shot. Right now the sentry has too little hp to stand up to a handful of the new OP minions and cheesers and way too much damage to slaughter a tactical push… could use slight tweaking there. I’ve only had 1 match go to timer since the June 2nd hotfix. And over half of my deaths are from the sentry. (3k dmg in 12 seconds wtf?)

I don’t see how the complaints are seen as in the wrong… it’s supposed to put a fire under the devs. Yes you guys are trying and you say it but I have seen far more excuses than appologies. I’ve seen very little appreciation for those who are giving “constructive criticism” and trying to stay with the game because they enjoy it. And don’t think for a minute we don’t have other options.

Personally, if they fix everything… late is better than never. A surefire way for gbx to never see another penny from the community they have now or future patrons would be to give up on fixing this game.

P.S: a lot of us are at level cap on everything we enjoy playing… and very well might leave before anything gratifying is implimented.

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#34

They have made changes to alani they decreased her base health. Alani isnt op at all she’s a slow snail and made of glass an assasin can kill her in seconds.

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#35

I had the patch update on xbone but no new marketplace content…am I missing something?

#36

Marketplace update is June 16th.

#37

Ooh I see, that makes sense, actually can’t wait to see what they put in there

#38

26 skins most reskins but kleese looks awesome and I believe 7 taunts.

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#40

They changed something to S&A’s “chain” when fetching. What chain? I never noticed a chain. D:

#41

So as promused check this out. ISIC on top of the wall placed behind the sniper perch. The sentry didn’t target him either only pushe’d him out because the ranged characters on my team killed him

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#42

Bots are still not using skins or random taunts after this update, please fix because it added variety to doing private matches. Also, friendly bots are still getting stuck on the various large crystals around the Outback map, particularly the ones near the middle and the other one under the tunnel at point C.

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#43

Here is an example of how the last sentry can still be cheesed:

The sentry will move, eventually, but if it stays there long enough significant damage can be done to one who is patient.
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On another note, here is what I would classify an exploit since Kleese’s turrets are clipped through the building:

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#44

Echelon is not fixed, framerate still drops multiple times in a game

#45

All in all, a fairly good patch. The game is still in it’s early stages and it will take time to get the game modes balanced enough for a competitive ranked system.
The patches for lore and character balance will come but quite frankly, I prefer this approach to balance the maps for all characters rather than GBX working on one or two.

They’re working for the majority but the minority always shouts louder.

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#46

It’s generally because those with issues are more likely to express them than those of us who don’t really have any big ones. There’s only so many times one can say "I love this game!’ when most of what we see is negative (or appears that way).

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#47

Lazlo, you should probably start a new thread for this one. It’s pretty bad and I think deserves quick attention. That’s a pretty rough exploit. (In regards to the Kleese one I mean)

#48

Yes, I was considering doing that in the other forum, but it was really late. I’ll do that in a bit as soon as I complain about the current changes in the appropriate thread for it…