#94

Same about fixing aonints. Nothing worse than getting a nice drop but the wrong anointment (i.e., Moze getting an ASA anoint).

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#95

I suggest the Borderlands reddit and discord channels. There are channels dedicated to trading. Just join and ask around as someone may have what you’re after, or something very close to it. And honestly, you don’t need the exact gear. I’m a Moze main. I’m running gear that has ASA nova anoints with Moze and killing everything in sight. I have a radiation Infinity in a slot and can take out mobs and some bosses (looking at you Traunt). But that’s because I learned how things (skills, anoints, etc.) interact in the game (thanks to Nootmad, Prismatic, Moze Militia discord).

Sorry, got sidetracked. My point is you don’t need the exact gear. Most of the gear that drops is useable. The trick is learning skill tree interaction, etc. That’s where these reddit and discord channels help. There are lots of people there willing to help with gear and tips/tricks.

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#96

Why don’t you understand my answer?

“Because it takes a couple of hours to get the new skill points, and then days/weeks/months to re-farm your gear.”
It’s time consuming and boring.

This agree with to a point. Some weapons age better than others. Some that are already weak simply can’t keep up after a couple of levels.

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#97

But hear me out, you’re choosing to farm. A level cap with the DLC just gives you incentive to play through the DLC with your existing character. With this existing character, you get to use new weapons as you out level your current gear and obtain new gear.
See, this whole “takes hours to farm muh god roll” doesn’t work because you don’t need to do it. You’re choosing to. If that’s what you like, that’s what you’ve signed up for.
Most people play for content, and not to run on a hamster wheel.

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#98

I don’t understand because this has happened in Borderlands every single time there was a level cap increase. It’s what happens in Borderlands. We’re not even a year past release, yeah? The game is still in active support, with sizeable content still being delivered.

If your issue is that it happens too often, I understand that, but I just don’t share that opinion. In my opinion the smaller jumps means weapons are less likely to be invalidated by the level cap increase, reducing the need for farming. It’s a good compromise - again, just my opinion - between increasing the level cap and invalidating players’ farmed weapon caches.

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#99

The low retention rate for thus game shows they are doing lots of things wrong. It is likely too late to turn it around too.

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#100

I’m not sure what you mean by this. It’s a co-op RPG with the majority of folks playing it single player.
You buy it, complete the content, and leave, like with any other game. If you enjoy it, you come back. If new content comes out, you come back. If you own it, you can come play it any time you’d like.
What’s this ‘retention’ you have in mind? It’s not an MMO, ya know? We aren’t paying a subscription to play it. They have sold a lot of copies. They already have the money. Retention isn’t the angle gearbox is focused on. That’s why content updates are far and few between. And that’s why the game surges when those updates come out. And that’s why it dies back down after people complete the content.

#101

They are clearly aiming for retention with these events, free updates and such.

#102

I think they’re more focused on trying to get new players rather than retention.

#103

I think a bit of both, actually. I think their main focus is on new players, but I do think they worry about retention, too, because I’m sure there are many players like myself who tend to never get back on a game if I take too long of a break. I never dug into OP levels on BL2 because I took too long of a break, and never got back in until new content (Commander Lilith dlc) came out, and I’ve got a stack of games that I never got around to playing the DLCs because I took a break. This game has managed to keep me focused so if and when they do come out with more content, I’ll be more likely to buy it.

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#104

This. If the RNG weren’t so bad with all of the options that makes it so difficult to get the right gear, then farming wouldn’t be so bad. But overall, I hate farming. I’d prefer grinding, where even making a small bit of progress is desirable over a RNG-filled mess that has to be navigated every level increase.

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#105

Retention can mean keeping your player base playing your game.

This gives the obvious economic advantage of your player base not playing your competitor’s game.

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#106

But you already bought the game so they aren’t making money off of you playing it.

#107

There is more to business than just selling a game.

#108

Not sure about that, especially when your business is making and selling games. New players are their business. By having new and exciting events, they may catch new players eyes and new players may purchase the game.
GBX doesn’t care if you keep playing or not, if you already bought the game. Level cap increases and expansions are to grow the base bubble.

#109

Here’s one thought for you:: Brand awareness/brand management. The value of a company is not just on the amount of turnover/sales. Careful brand management can add value to your company (and therefore your shareholders).

By encouraging you to use their product over their competition’s, they add value to their brand, and limit their rival’s brand from gaining value.

#110

Who is gearbox competing with?
And if GBX cared about brand management, they would have probably shut down this forum a long time ago XD

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#111

Gearbox are in competition with every other gaming company.

#112

Retention is a pretty pointless stat for this game either way. It matters a lot more if you plan on having an ongoing monetization model with microtransactions, but this game isn’t even selling cosmetic DLC yet, so they gain no economic benefit from players continuing to play the game on end.

With BL2, the frequency of all kinds of DLC (story, cosmetic, head hunter, etc…) ironically would’ve made retention a much bigger factor in their ROI, but I don’t see that being the case for BL3.

The whole format of most RPGs nowadays is to accept that players will take breaks from your game and get them to come back with limited time events and large scale updates to the game re: Warframe, Diablo, POE, Destiny, etc…I don’t think any game is seriously trying to keep players on a drip feed of content for a full year to keep them from playing other games when they know players can pick up some indie game for free (or close enough to) on Steam whenever they want.

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#113

TL;DR
I agree, sort of. I don’t farm incessantly for very particular rolls.

I agree with you. To me, it’s pain for later gain. I should clarify. When I say it takes weeks, that’s duration, not effort. But it slows down the game. I don’t, and will never farm for rolls. I really don’t care about them.

For example. The Lob. I’ll farm Gigamind or Captain Traunt, for maybe an hour after playing. If I don’t get what I want, whatever. I’ll set aside some time later. Eventually I’ll get my fav weapons. Some items are a little trickier.

My latest issue with the cap increase is seasonal events. My level 57 Pew Pew is my go to weapon. It still shreds at level 60. It probably won’t at 65. My backup is OPQ, same thing. There is nothing that can replace those, presumably until next year.

There’s also DLC issues. Mission weapons and Team weapons will have to be farmed. If you want the team weapons, you’ll have to start a new character. Replaying in TVHM doesn’t allow you to do the Team challenges. I just created a Moze for this reason. Now I’m stopping, because what’s the point. Might as well wait. And this is why I go back to TPS and just check in once in a while.

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