Are we just gonna pretend that Marquis isn't worthless now?

Nope, they said they’ll make his base rockets crit-less.
Hawkeye rockets doesn’t crit already.

Hawkeye rockets =/= Lock-on rockets (Which are just base rocket with homing capabilities).

And even if it did, your “1200 damage by a level 2 Benedict” is downright impossible:
Hawkeye does 149 damage at level 2. That would be 447 if it could crit. Not 1200.
But it doesn’t matter, because:

Hawkeye

Doesn’t

Crit.

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I’m guessing Marquis’ skill ceiling is higher on the console versions due to playing with a gamepad? 'Cause he’s the complete opposite of hard to play with a mouse. Before the balance changes a Benedict taking flight to escape death would just be a free kill to a Marquis.

Not really, benedict is easy to shoot in the air no matter what

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Naw, he’s not perfect, but he’s not pure cheese. If he was, maybe someone would pick him.

I just wanted a rework because I think my idea better rewards skilled players than the current one.

Oh okay lol. Sorry for mathing

Actually, crits on human enemies if just 1.5 instead of the 3x multiplier on AI. And they’ll make it so they don’t crit at all according to Kaleidodemon

That’s what i meant with “crit-less” (Like “homeless”)

Base Rocket: The regular one. Does Crit. Does Attack damage.
Hawkeye Rocket: The rocket from the skill, the one with bluish flames. Doesn’t crit. Does Skill damage.
Lock-on Rockets: Just the Base rockets who are affected by the Lock from Hawkeye’s effect.

Hawkeye Rockets are not Base Rocket. No crit.
Lock-on Rockets are Base Rocket. Crit.

We don’t play a different game, you just don’t know what you are talking about.

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Ah lol. Sorry. I thought you meant that it would be harder to crit somehow

He was referring to the upcoming patch. Please don’t take things out of context and pounce on them. Furthermore, I can’t tell if you’re actually saying you can crit with pillars or not. Because if you aren’t, I get what you’re saying. If you are, idk how one could possibly ascertain that. It’s literally impossible

Yeah, i badly phrased that, hah.

Also, there is an item which, i think, allow you to do critical on skills (7% chance) but i never tested it (7% is pointless on nearly everyone but Orendi)

Anyway, the only skill i know who does crit, without gear, is Pendles Injection.

Fully agreed. GBX, don’t be G-BS, please return Marsquis- I mean Marquis to the place he was before.

Thorns Volley, Deande, there are a few others

His damage potential was out of control, but I think the appropriate trade off should have been that Ein, Zwei, Die timer should linger longer by the same percentage they reduce the damage by, otherwise there’s no real reason to focus a single target.

To use a slightly altered Old Sentinel qoute:

“Buff Marquis?! Oh no. no way in hell. We are keeping him where he’s at. We are DOING that.”

I think we should heed Ol’ Senty’s advice on this, guys, cause he’s like… got wisdom and stuff.

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Not to mention Ben’s projectile speed is so low it hard to get hits off from a distance. Even with auto lock they just need to take cover for 3 - 4 seconds.

I agree, he use to be able to keep a whole team at bay. Even me, ( im not a good sniper) could pretty much keep a whole team hugging.

When a Hawkeye rocket hits you, the regular rockets now home in on you, they are not special rockets that are of the skill

Besides the first blue rocket

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No, they are not “part of the skill”.
The skill add a debuff on an enemy that make your rockets home-in on them. The rockets are still base rockets, only affected by Hawkeye’s after effect.

Uh, if i die from a rocket i say i died from a rocket? Why would i say i died from Hawkeye since it wasn’t a Hawkeye rocket?
If you got meat in your bag and a dog attack you because of it, you are not going to accuse the meat, do you?

Hum, a lot of peoples do. And the game does too:

Hawkeye’s rockets deal increased damage to shields.”
Homing Rockets deal increased damage to enemies.”

Learn the difference?

Not an insult. You literally don’t know what you are talking about, as pointed above.

And trust me when i say i try to stay polite, because right now, this is you. (And if you don’t get it, all the best)

By the way, the original discussion wasn’t about this. I made my point, and i clearly should have given up on trying to correct you, because you clearly don’t want to. And because of it i’m just spamming someone’s topic for nothing.
So i’m off.

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If after collecting data the devs find that Marquis is underperformaing they will make adjustments. If they find that he is good where he is then they’ll be leaving him as is. as it is we’ll just have to see where things stand.

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