#633

After 4 runs my points still stand but I would like to add some refined thoughts.

  • The mode seems pretty inbalanced for solo play, what I mean by that isn’t the difficulty per se but these “gate opening” stand offs like the valve turning one or the drop down concrete arena or the sewers. There are waves after waves and when you finally think you are through in begins all from anew with several pairs of badasses. Also way to many squads of Maliwan heavies etc.
    These take way to much time and by the time you unlocked a area “transition” the murdercane is probably close to make it not accessible, basically cutting off 1/3 of the explorable area. Because of this, after 4 runs I have the map already at 60% but am still clueless how to even reach any of the far away corner areas.

Also I’m still not sure if being in buildings/underground saves you from the murdercane nor if you can infinitely stay in the center of the map.

  • The whole gear/extractor/stash situation is just horrible. In my 3th run I was showered with legendaries. I got 7 unique new ones (3 being literally in two chests next to each other) 2 new duplicates and 5 main game ones. I was pretty lucky that I found an extractor so I could ship a measly 3 items to my bank otherwise I would have had to discard half of them after the boss.

I would welcome it if these would be atleast 10 items. Also afterwards finding and selling was the horror with the already mentioned still persisting bug, nor can you swap items because you exceed bank limit and so on… This needs to be handled better and we really severaly need another bank upgrade.

  • Another thing that is also head scratching is how you can’t use any of the items yet their special effects are all things that compliment Arms Race co-op playing, not to mention that some are cool but serve absolutely no purpose solo like the Res (as far as I’m aware)

  • To get back at Axton and Salvador, their addition is completely pointless to me. While I’m far from happy with the portrayal of Timothy, Gaige and Krieg these atleast added something to the story. Listening to A&S on the other hand is like listening to two very bored commentators of some MTV reality show or something. Oh Axton missed what I did because he was on the toilet, who cares! And Salvador munching into the microphone as if he is the personification of these obnoxious people in online chats…

  • A thing I forgot to write the first time is that I absolutely find it not exciting at all to find anything above white because it just means guns will not act as cumbersome. Legendaries are either not usable or we already use/d them anyway in the main game.

This isn’t meant to insult anybody but the only reason I can see how Arms Race is exiting for some people is if these are the ones that for the longest times have clung to a single build or loadout, so a self imposed problem, if you so will.

So to give the people that are wondering if this is worth it some better insight, this is the best I can come up with:

Imagine a boring map that is like a bland mashup of Lectra City/Frostburn Canyon. Now imagine playing the beginning of Borderlands 2 with nothing but the most boring white guns you can find. Well still sounds alright because of BL2 right? Well now completely get rid of the awesome dialogue, the jokes, the side quests, the quirky characters, bosses… and so on. This is how it feels to me.

Like if Gearbox had just said ‘‘Hey, we got this large new area that isn’t tied to anything but makes for a good playground to just goof around in, which you can buy for 3 bucks’’ than okay maybe, but not as an 15 dollar DLC with a bare bones attempt of a mode.

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#634

On point, man!

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#635

Do you guys the upcoming Godfall might affect the dev attention time on Borderlands? I just saw on my notification some BL streamers are streaming Godfall (they got early access).

#636

Gearbox is just the publisher it’s developed by Counterplay Games.

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#637

I know that and you’re saying it shouldn’t affect BL in any way possible?

#638

Not really.

#639

Instead of Murdercane: an underground vault monster. When you run out of time, the entire level gives way and you fall into it and have to fight it.

Throughout the level, the dangers are similar to the Ruiner. He’ll knock out a part of the level ( resulting in craters), create fire or cold hazards, etc. Lots of ways to do this.

Throughout the mode you get power ups and time extensions. Time extensions allow you to fully explore the level w/o too much stress - just denser enemies ( put them on timer too).

If you do a boss run only, the vault monster gets angrier, the terrain becomes more inhospitable and gives away way earlier ( if you kill all bossses, even if you have full extended time, the level falls away and you fight the monster). Could be a great use for a ‘raid boss’ amenable to defeat by normal gear.

Idea cuz I hate the Murdercane though I like Arms Race for reasons already stated.

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#640

Ok I hope you’re right. As someone said, you don’t wanna bet against BL’s screw ups.

#641

I like the new skill tree, however in order to really take advantage of it we will need the skill point cap to be increased. As for the Arms Race dlc I don’t care for it at all, as many have said it is really kind of pointless. I have played it 3 times now and unless you are a fortnite player it is not any fun.
As for a directors cut of Arms Race, how about you drop it and give us a real DLC like the previous 4 with new legendary guns. Most importantly I would like new characters to play! BL2 had two new charcters out in the first season pass, so were are they for BL3?

#642

Getting bored already. It’s totally random whether you get anything reasonable to start , the drop rates of whites is way too high. Probably gonna be done with Arms Race pretty soon.

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#643

no… any more skillpoints and you can capstone 2 skilltrees…

and if they DO add more skillpoints they should fix mayhem difficulty scaling first…

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#644

What I wish is instead of Arms Race they would of created a planet in which they could open new areas every so often, each area would contain the nastiest and most powerful existing creatures or new creatures with a boss for each and new legendary weapons, a monster could be also included at the end for extra delight and legendaries. Your skills, existing weapons, and guardian points would all be active as well as mayhem. That would be something I would play over and over again, in short a re-playable farming planet.

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#645

You can capstone 2 already

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#646

I was totally wrong again. The game is actually a really interesting challenge but it’s literally pointless. Let us earn points or at least keep track of our kill count for the match so we’ll have a reason to fight though the most amount of enemies.

High scores make repeatable modes/games fun.

Edit: I guess using guardian rank gained as a score could work as part of a score. Nevermind.

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#647

realy? :smiley:

never realy botherd trying :joy:

thought i’d needed to go for zane’s green capstone after the changes but still blasting through takedown with no problems (appart from randomly getting downed for some weird reason)

but you get my point :wink: last thing this game needs is more powercreep untill they finaly start fixing things and make an actual difficulty modifier

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#648

Yea
I’m running TD and SF on my moze and still got a few points in bottomless
Definitely doesn’t need more skillpoints

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#649

What about new playable characters, does anyone want more playable characters?
How about Tiny Tina as a playable character with all kinds of buffs to explosions?

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#650

Yup only wanted dlc VHs from the very start. THAT i would buy.

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#651

Too much work I guess^^
I remember I designed 3 complete skilltrees for a Tina character xD

#652

A dlc VH based on a community design competition would have been awesome, fun and interactive. Obviously would need ‘balancing’ by devs but I’d take a new VH over dlc 3 and 4

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