The fact the game didn’t sale as good as 2K and Gearbox wanted to sale is a maximum motivator to care for the community they already have, not to piss on them like they are doing.

If the 85 ops point skin is also a recolour, I don’t have more to say. Gearbox and 2K lost me as a customer. I don’t care if you can get a different one for Ambra o Attikus, my main is Orendi, so… I’ll play the dlcs because I paid for them but I won’t sink another dime in a Gearbox game. I don’t care if is 2K fault to get to the point of their previously schedule with the game despise the sales or to try to milk the cow before it gets dry but Gearbox could has something to say in the matter and the fact they aren’t is enough for me.

The dlc is lackluster, zero replayability if the skins are mere recolors, is short, with just one boss… Of course is my opinion but I’m feeling scammed by 2K and Gearbox to this point with the only good skins being via more money in the market and with dlcs with this content and so much time to deliver them.

Sorry but no… They scammed me with Alien Colonial Marines, they scammed me with Battleborn and hard, really hard. They won’t see a dime from me in the future…

And the size of the team isn’t an excuse. I’m playing the Halloween event in Overwatch and having a blast and I have to play the TESO one (thanks for remind me @reliikki :wink: ) but I’ll play also the Halloween event in Secret World, they continue to create new events every year and their team I think is smaller than Gearbox for Battleborn at this moment. Also I guess Warframe will have one event (or the freaking cinematic quest of War Within) and I’ll play that too.

I had hopes in Gearbox yet to them getting up to speed and start to care for the community but taking this… They killed all hope in me for them. I won’t be complaining anymore, because I don’t see they have salvation at this point.

And in the Borderlands 2 dlcs, some you get farming, some just for finishing, some in codes… the Halloween, X-mas and short… They released a lot of codes for skins and majority were unique, not simple recolours. They are being pennypinchers with skins for codes, with skins in game and now with skins on dlcs.

I knew it was going to be that the moment they announced every battleborn had 2 new skins , though.
I mean, that was fairly obvious considering what we got before.

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I’m loving it the dialogue alone is well worth it

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For me is more narration and less dialogue… I mean, our character doesn’t react a bit to dlc, doesn’t say a word, there are no interaction.

I get no reaction from Orendi, but I also played it with Ambra, with Deande… Nothing, not a single exchance, comentary, nothing.

And also, when they announced the dlcs first they said a skin for every character so I thought, hoping, they were what in Smite is a T5 or a least a T4, when they said were 2 for character, I hoped a modification, minimal, in the first ones and a full 3D model for the other ones. They said, more than ones, the dlc skins were specially, exclusive, blah, blah, blah… A perfect sales pitch just to slap us int he face with recolours.

I hope they enjoy and use well the money, I really do.

Yupp, as far as I know in BL2 you had to own the DLC or play with one who owns the DLC in Co-op or get heads/skins traded from a player who ones DLC.
As I recall they offered lowpriced bundles later on, but I don´t know if they made all DLC-skins/heads available for free after the very last update. (To that date I had all DLC purchased already and was rarely on the boards to read patchnotes/updates…)


As SP-holder I expected to get the DLC-operations and expected the skins GBX told us to come would be rewards from the operations. So my expectations are quiet fulfilled.
Yes, I´d love more intricate skins to grind for too, but I love the silver/black/red-combo and I can´t wait to get them for my characters.

Besides that:
A game-company cannot fullfill every players expectations even if they wanted to. Same as a state cannot fullfill every single citizens expectations.
Not saying that its good that some individuals are unheard, but its no ill intend in my opinion, just a flaw in the superstructures called humanity/market/state/culture.


PS: I´m awake for…27 hours now, I apologize for typos, halfmade sentences, philosophical rambling and alike, I might edit this a gazillion times.

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the 85 ones seem to be mostly red and gold.

I know Marquis, at the very least, is one exception. 40 is red and black, 85 is black and gold.

I like the second Deande skin. It’s a recolor. But I think the black and gold looks badass.

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The skins are a disappointment, the dlc actually has very little variation in replay, and chances are us season pass holders will get nothing but more mediocre pallet swaps in the upcoming dlcs as well

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I really love the skin red metallic jennerit skins!! They are better then the other simple yellow/green/pink/blue recoloring.

That’s the thing that piss me off more, specially because when people made a fuss about the microtransactions, the devs said season pass holders and deluxe edition owners were about to get equally exclusive, unique skins with the dlcs… and we get recolors.

The gameplay, even when the narration is fine, fun even, has little interaction with our characters, doesn’t matter what battleborn you play, your character doesn’t say a thing.

It’s a short map, with a short story, with just one boss, thing that translate to just one legendary as well (and a legendary that you most likely won’t use outside the dlc) and even when I expected really unique skins (they didn’t have to be superspecial, but just show some work on them because a recolor can be do on Paint) I could be ok with recolors for the easy ones to get and something in the speed of clown Shayne and Aurox for the hardest to get. Heck, one skin per character and make it unique, not this ■■■■■■■■.

And the sad part? I know I’m beating the dead horse complaining. We will get more ■■■■ in the season pass and the market is gonna get the good skins.

And when I spoke about the Borderlands 2 skins, I wasn’t talking about the buyable ones, but the ones you got by playing the dlcs. Look down in that very page and you can get what I’m talking about. The dlc heads, that aren’t recolorings, that you can earn just for playing the dlcs… just for playing and not recolors.

The costumization of that game is a prime example of what can do Gearbox when they aren’t bullshiting the community, pissing in our heads and saying is raining with the “unique” skins we can get on the first dlc.

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Well, there are also new Loot Pack legendaries.

Are you talking about Overwatch? Everything is free because it can all be purchased with in game currency. Outside of the Olympic event skins.

Battleborn forces you to pay for the good skinsbecause there’s no other way to get them.

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Okay, so I’ve been thinking a bit and now I’m trying to write down my impressions and feelings about the first DLC.
First of all the story itself… I think the idea was fun and creative, I love Tempest and the Jennerit so yeah… While I’m not a particular big fan of Attikus I enjoyed the mission. But in my opinion it is way too short and like you said I also kinda missed some interaction between story and characters. (Maybe because they couldn’t sink any money on voice actors due to bad sales? That’s sadly my number one guess).

Now about the skins… I don’t think they are bad recolors but yes, they are just recolors and that’s pretty disappointing to me too… Especially after everything that has happened in the past (T2 skins in the open beta, not being able to earn plat in game, dishing out cool skins for ridiculous prices every other time, promising us “cool” new skins with the story ops, not giving us free Halloween skins) it feels like a punch in the face.

You know… A very simple fix I thought of would be give every character per story ops one or two recolors and split T3 designs (quality of S&As balloon skin) in a way that after all five story ops were released every hero has a T3 skin that can be unlocked in game (like first story ops a T3 for every Jennerit hero, second for every rogues and so on).

I still love the game, but sadly I guess the majority of the bad things that happen lately (lackluster content, MTs) it’s all due to bad sales. If the game sold better we would probably get better and more free content.

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Unless you’re a taunt addict, you never see your character in combat anyway…

Who cares about skins?

Not I…

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In the same boat. Was hoping the 2nd skin at least would have been something more than a recolor. Even if they focused on different faction per operation like the Attikus one would have good skins for the Jenneritt and that would at least limit the number of good skins to make but alas we get simple color swaps again. Feels like they spent 1 minute per character on these skins to churn them out so people can at least say the season passers got skins.

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I do.

I’m a costumization freak. Every game I go I need to costumize my character (or characters, I’m also an altoholic) or I feel like something is missing. I need to see some uniqueness or at least personalization.

If is a mmo, like FFXIV, I need to have my house, my character, my mount as unique or my own as possible.

In MOBAs, like Battleborn, I don’t care if I only see the character in the selection screen or doing a taunt (I not always taunt except if the guy is a jackass taunting or teabaging (yes, I saw that more than once) or if I get a kill to a guy heavily protected by all his party running together as an army), I want my uniqueness and normally I don’t mind paying for it… if the game deserve it and isn’t trying to force me to buy or bullshiting me.

Like this beauty that is a real good looking skin. It’s so different from the base model, with cool new animations and all, that I won’t mind dunking euros to Paragon for that (also, free game, you gotta sustain devs when they deserve it).

I didn’t wanted something so crafted, I just wanted an alternative to recolors that wasn’t the market… Something that wasn’t a recolor.

It’s fine if people don’t care about skins but the thing that moved me to buy the season pass was more pve and different skins. If I knew back them we were about to get recolors, I wouldn’t expend the money.

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@vengerin

Fair enough and well said!

Point made.

It’s underwhelming DLCs like this one that are the reason I NEVER buy a season pass until I see the first piece of content. I’m glad I bought the DDE because I’ve gotten a lot of use out of it, but this op mission is pretty disappointing.

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Proud Digi deluxe edition / season pass holder here!

I only bought three or four season passes before seeing the goods and always was due to trusting in the dev team. I bought Borderlands Pre-sequel (Jack Doppelganger, they didn’t have to say more), Batman Arkham Knight (I was one of the lucky few that could play it on pc without errors, almost a miracle so I don’t regret it either, it’s an amazing game), The Witcher 3 (also, amazing content for so little money) and Battleborn’s. The rest, if I bought a season pass was after seeing the goods or at least part of them like with Borderlands 2.

It looks like that I’ll have to get to that practice again :cry: