B-BUT I WANNA GO!! If Berg can come…
YAY!! Berg too, right?
B-BUT I WANNA GO!! If Berg can come…
YAY!! Berg too, right?
I just stayed in denial about the servers for an extended period of time then got hit with the remaining stages simultaneously.
It has definitely been a long ride for Battleborn Season 1 with its ups and downs. No doubt about that.
I don’t know how the distribution is across platforms, but since the Winter Update, the number of unique users (not page views) visiting my website has more than tripled what it was like during the second half of 2016. The month of February in particular is seeing the highest amount of usage I have ever gotten since I set my website up back in June-July of last year.
However you want to interpret that info, the game IS definitely seeing a surge of interest both in and outside the game. Simply having x number of players actively playing the game is not a solid indicator of a game’s health. I’m hesitant to bring up Overwatch, but a large chunk of that community is purely there for making fanart and cosplay and have little to no interest in actually playing the game. It’s these people that drive others to check out the game or start doing fanart of their own.
Seeing the passion some of these people put into their Battleborn artworks makes me happy to see that the game has touched people in a way that motivates them to do this…
We have talented artists like @beya making super cool water color comics…
We even have some amazing Japanese and Korean artists doing stuff now.
Art by ziro264
And I’m still finding more cool artists that have been drawing Battleborn art for ages in their own little pocket communities.
Art by LeaddyBum
Different players will have different opinions on what they need in order to validate the time they spend on a game. While Battleborn still has a lot of things that could be better in both PvE and PvP, a lot of people have really latched onto the characters and the lore in ways that kind of transcend what you’d be able to get out of a game by itself (even a really well made one).
If none of these things matter to you though, then yeah… The game probably isn’t going to be that appealing. I flat out avoid public PvP (and PvP in general) for most of the reasons you’ve highlighted and because I just don’t really like the headspace a lot of online players have (Destiny is horrible on this). Bots Battle is definitely a thing I’d play more of though if I wasn’t so caught up in making content for the game all the time. I love the PvE side though as it has elements from Borderlands/Gearbox that I really like and differ from other games I play.
When I play an Uncharted game, I play through it once and pretty much never play it again, because I am getting all I need from it in a single playthrough. To me, Battleborn is like a long running TV Show, which always seems to have a new episode/short just around the corner or another log file that gets pulled from the archives by people like @dante_d_silva for the weekly Battleborn. It’s not the game or the number of players on the steam charts that is making me stay up to 3am Friday morning to read the latest Battleplan Lore. 
I think if I was weighing in on this game purely on its PvP offerings, then I’d probably be feeling a lot of the thoughts and feelings you’ve expressed here as well. That must be a sucky place to be in. 
I dig on the creative fan works too, but sometimes it feels like a distraction from issues that cripple the actual game, or worse, a reminder. Look at the cute little drawing of Kelvin! Remember that time he just walked forward and chomped you to death, ignoring every bit of damage and CC thrown at him?
I’ve considered creative contributions, but my hand is stayed by frustration. In my book, putting time and effort into such things implies an endorsement, an approval of the game, and I really do not approve of the current state of Battleborn at all. Creativity also tends to come from a place of joy, and Battleborn Versus on PC is a soul-crushing joy vampire.
I admire your approach, lowlines… but I just can’t seem to adopt it for myself.
And like you, I did avoid Versus, at least for a few months. But it’s all my PC Battleborn-ing friends seem to want to play. I understand what they’re looking for. They want that feeling of high-speed chess, pitting your strategy and coordination against that of another living being. But if Battleborn is fundamentally flawed behind the digital curtain, at least in Versus modes, then the competitive landscape becomes cheap and tainted, a breeding ground for exploitative tactics and individuals without integrity.
My biggest issue is with this impression many Battleborn players seem to have, that gameplay is actually behaving as-intended most of the time, or has even achieved some high level of balance. In my eyes, it’s so far from that, to say otherwise smacks of delusion, and that’s not an accusation I really want to sling directly at some of the nice people that still play this game.
A few hours ago, I had a Kelvin sublimate my entire team and a minion wave, which shot my framerate down from a consistent 100+ frames-per-second to around three, making any sort of post-attack response almost impossible. It’s also quite unsettling to have a PC bottom out like that – sometimes I think it’s going to be followed by sparks and the smell of burning.
The round after that, none of my attacks seemed to be registering any damage, despite audio cues and numbers to the contrary. CC frequently refused to apply to opponents, and intermittent rubber-banding was prevalent, despite everyone having green connection bars. It all culminated in a failed attempt to defend our team’s sentry in the last 30 seconds, leading to deeply-frustrating loss by decision. My personal score was an uncharacteristic, inexplicable 0-7. As per usual, everyone silently and disdainfully headed for the virtual door.
Yesterday, when I was playing WF, Phoebe hit me with Silence, and after the debuff had ended, I still couldn’t fire any skills, despite them clearly being available in the tray. So I died in a pathetic backpedal, taking unanswered, low-effort face stabs for 10 seconds, when a single Scrap push could have easily saved me.
I have hundreds of additional examples, lodged in my brain when I’d rather forget, all screaming at me to drop this game again.
I’m sick of whining about it, and my friends are certainly sick of hearing me whine. They’d much rather compromise and play with anyone who is still willing to play, regardless of their approach, their “headspace”, as you so aptly put it. It pains me to keep such mixed company, to socialize with players that have so brutally reamed me in prior games without a shred of empathy. I suppose that’s my fault, not being able to put the past behind me. On the other hand, why should I forgive them when there’s nothing remotely resembling an apology being offered?
You summed it up nicely: It’s a sucky place.
So far, my friends and I (which still play the game on PC) are not in denial.
We know the state of the game but still play it because we love it, and we did/do debate commonly what mistakes were the ones GBX did that shouldn’t have happened or we think on the “What if” situations.
Just like with SMNC, I will keep playing until it really becomes hard to find games and my friends (our competitive hardcore and so far loyal community) leave the game, which has been prevented so far thanks to GBX support and love for their game!
Awww…Okay, mister. You can come too 
AND Berg…? W-We’ve been through too much together for me to just leave him behind…
And Berg 
AWESOME!! When we get to wherever we’re going, i’m making us ALL matching uniforms!
Oh, and PLEASE don’t hate me for not liking your posts… I’m new to this “limited likes” system, and it’s REALLY frustrating! I DON’T GET MORE FOR 10 F*CKING HOURS!!
Oh, GOSH! Sorry for swearing!
Oh, it wasn’the realy meant to be an attack. It’s just that when they have that many games, everyone I’ve talked with either decided to check everything out, or finds a game they really like and decide to really get good. I respect both. Thanks for asking though, seriously. I’ll look out for anything I could curb. Sorry
YAY! I use it pretty often myself so I’m not surprised, but that’s very good to hear
I’ve worked really hard to get good at this game. While most people are working, I’m playing battleborn. It just doesn’t make a single bit of difference though. Solo queue is a great idea and I really hoped that it would help make pvp more bearable for me. But ultimately this is a team game and if the team fails you failed. No one cares about top loser. I’ve even gone back to working on PvE completionist stuff but it gets boring and I will never get decent scores on story playing solo. I have crippling psychological disorders that make it very difficult for me to make friends, so I can’t just pull a group together. I had a couple of duo queuers take it upon themselves to make sure that I was well informed that I was trash. I try not to let this stuff get to me but I realize now that this is the game I’m playing. This is how it is to play battleborn, you team up and stomp or you lose. Those rare games where you actually have two good teams go back and forth are really fun, but they are not an accurate representation of the game that is battleborn. I can’t handle how much this game and the community punishes you for being alone.
Solo queueing in this game is brutal - I’ve encountered way more elitist attitudes and toxicity in this game as a solo queuer than I have in the other PVP game you’re not supposed to mention.
I totally understand that this is a team game and not going out of my way to form teams, so thats 100% on me. However other titles also don’t require you to need to go to those lengths.
I’m not writing this reply to complain - merely wanted to express that I totally emphasise where you are coming from. I have no social difficulties and solo queue has been a rough experience. Premades have a much different view of this game and community than many solo queuers do I think…
What? You mean titanfall? Lol
Hahaha 