Battleborn Marketplace Update

Battleborn is only dying in respect to the PC. It is strong and Alive on the console. How nice of a big company like Blizzard to have all of their skins free. I bet when they have DLC though, they will ask for money and then people will complain. If it is like most Blizzard games, the DLC will all be $20 for a few new maps and 2 new characters. Then they will come out with the ultimate edition with all of the DLC making people feel stupid for buying it when they did. Blizzard has a LONG history of doing that. Gearbox has a history of selling a season pass and giving the content promised in the season pass to the people who buy it. Those who bought the season pass will get the skins, taunts, missions, and characters that go along with each of the 5 DLC packs. These skins are separate from the DLC packs. It would not be smart to give these people access to something they have not bought yet. The season pass holders have to wait for the DLC packs (the first of which should be done by at latest end of Summer 2016).

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Not really. They are just giving us the option to spend money :wink:

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I am just wondering which Blizzard game does that? Charging $20 for a few maps and 2 new characters?

I know lots of games do that but I can’t recall a single Blizz doing it.

And you know what’s the sad part? there are more post count on this topic than people playing the game on PC. Come on, log in and frag it out!

There are more posts in many borderlands threads than people playing it, whats your point on that?

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I was just making an example of what they would do. My primary example is Diablo 3: which had 1 DLC that was $20 that came with 1 character and a new chapter. Then the Ultimate Evil Edition came out for the price of Diablo 3 ($40). They did the same thing with Diablo 2. And let’s not mention Warcraft.

I do find it sad. If people are concerned about it being a dying game they should log in and frag it out! I would love to get on the PC and frag it out, but I do not have my copy for the PC. I have it for PS4.

Ooo I thought they called that expansion and not DLC… lol.

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What’s the point of talking then? We called it NATO. No Action Talk Only :slight_smile:

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lol. The only difference is the name and how it is perceived. Expansion sounds cooler.

I’m glad you dropped the metaphor as it was distracting the point.

Every aspect of creating digital content requires additional resources to complete. My main issue is that resources were used for something trivial instead of using those resources to improve the buggy game, balancing battleborn pvp, or fixing the darn drop rates, along with fixing legendary that are worse than some common loot.

Bwahahahahahahahaha. Yeah sad no developer ever. If you were a business that needed to make money to survive and you had a quick “easy” way to make money wouldn’t you do more of the easy work to “print money”. The reason I’m so against micro transactions is because once successful the game turns into just that. A free to play micro transaction game. Which is exactly why I’m fighting this uphill battle against all odds to get the micro transaction out of video games.

The phrase is not cut off your nose in spite of your face. Which is about doing less harm to myself than to my enemy. I’m doing no harm to myself by posting my opinion on the forums. If by chance I get the attention of the developer with my opinions and they listen I’ll be happy. I don’t mean to harm the developer either. Just to get them to see what I see, to feel what I feel.

On a positive note, I still play the game and enjoy it. I would enjoy it more if they address hacking, bugs, gave me a timeline for the first DLC, posted patch notes when they have a 1.2GB patch (Japanese language UI fixes), and didn’t do micro transactions you can’t get unless you purchase them. I bought the game, I should have access to all of it, even more so with the season pass.

It’s like ordering a cheese burger, and having to pay extra for the cheese. “Nothing gets passed me, my reflexes are too fast.”

Okay… I think i know what everyone is trying to say:

We need to build a space helicopter…

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Well said. I bought a few myself and I’m a DD holder, not insulted. Heck I had a match where 4 of us was using a skin, except for poor…Miko :cry:

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Subjective definition is still subjective!

Tha game has opinions now!

Well of course I do!

Intimidating? Wh…what? Where did intimidating come from?

You’re right. It’s intensely heroic. I’d better get back to it! Once more into the breach!

Edit: I love my friends.

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To start, a moment of pedant,

“Cutting off the nose to spite the face” is an expression used to describe a needlessly self-destructive over-reaction to a problem: “Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face” is a warning against acting out of pique, or against pursuing revenge in a way that would damage oneself more than the object of one’s anger.[1]

The reason I used it is because I believe micro-transaction revenue goes towards supporting the Live Team that helps make content. It goes towards other things too, but that’s neither here nor there. By attempting to cut off a source of potential revenue (MTs) because they rub us wrong, we might be pushing Battleborn down a path where it’s no longer viable to put additional resources into it. Since we all love the game, we would be doing exactly as the expressions states.


I’ve written extensively about how I don’t believe those resources could have been “free’d” even if the Marketplace were completely abandoned. Based on what I know about how timelines and budgets are made for projects like these, it doesn’t seem like we would have gained anything that would have brought the DLC-content closer to completion.

We might have gained a couple extra bug fixes (and this is a big “might”), but that would be the extent of it, unless GBX works way differently than companies like them.


Yes and no.

Again we are convolving GBX with 2k. These two entities have very different priorities.

GBX is concerned primarily with making a good game that people like and buy, if for no other reasons than the fact that it’s the only way to get their Publisher (2K) to invest money in their next adventure in programming. They want nothing more than to make Battleborn as good as they can possibly make it.

2k is interested in all that, but they are equally (if not more) interested in making sure BB turns a profit. For them, anything that GBX can do to make BB generate more revenue is fantastic, even if it means that things that might help the game get put on the backburner.

This is a massive simplification, but my point is that micro-transactions exist because Publishers (2K) like them, and because they provide a consistent, potentially large revenue stream for games with Live Teams. If they work, Studios (who want to make improvements to games) can justify asking Publishers for more money to do just that.

If you don’t believe that a financially solvent game is more likely to be given more development resources than one that is bleeding money, I can’t convince you of that fact.

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  1. My definition is not subjective, it is from a dictionary.

  2. Of course the game has an opinion! Why shouldn’t it? Since you obviously don’t understand that the skins do not change the game (which was the point I was making)

  3. When you make an assumption you make an A** out of you and me.

  4. You said they were better because they had them. I make a logical guess that you were intimidated. by their skill.

  5. Heroic, no. Foolish yes. Even a hero knows when it is fight and when it is time to leave it be.

  6. that is an awesome conversation. Not lying.

But I would like to point out I am not defending the marketplace. I have no feelings either way. Just trying to point out that it has nothing to do with playing the game. Just people spending money. I have said multiple times, that these are cosmetic. If you want to buy them, go for it and I will not stop you. If you don’t want to buy them, DON’T BUY THEM. It doesn’t hurt the game. Yes there will be heroes (mainly the 31st) that could possibly be paid for with real money. But technically those with the season pass paid for heroes 26 through 30 when they are already free. I just want people to quit complaining about it.

Oh, I forgot that they said so long ago that they would make and release additional skins and taunts, where some can be earned in-game and the rest bought as fuel for the free stuff. I’m glad to hear that they didn’t just stop after the $60 game and $5 dlcs, that they actually said that they will try to release free, additional content at only the expense of themselves and players who voluntary support them via purchasing optional, insignificant additional content (fun-sized dlc).

All I can say is “great!” if there are enough supporters to make the free content possible, or “that sucks” if there aren’t enough and the remaining free content gets canceled.

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Anyone can definitely agree with the fact that the store is not what you need to spice up the game .

370 players, 24h peak about 900.
http://steamcharts.com/app/394230

Thanks for killing the game we love so much! Your microtransactions implementation really been the last nail in the coffin!

I hope the game can ressurrect sometime, owning the season pass and wanting to play the game for like 500h more hours but with the matchmaking working bad since start, the low playerbase, and your new marketplace, it’s impossible! If I was millionaire Gearbox would be famous cause I would be paying people to play with me lol.

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I do RE call the description of the season pass including skins and Taunts if I am not mistaken.