Battleborn negative reception, irony, and sadness?

Battleborn Battleborn General Discussion
#143

@StargirioGR

I think they are cool, but they may need to be tuned down in some cases or be a detriment to the game. I have played competitively in shooters and mobas for over a decade on both accounts. You can’t really compare the games you listed to battleborn. None of them are remotely first person, unless you play in wow or GW2 handicapped with the zoom in at full.

I am not saying it has caused a detriment to my play, but it seems to be a consensus of people who took a look at the game this weekend on the PS4. In the CTT I probably had a 90% WR playing Marquee and the solider(Didn’t ever play any melee). I feel like melee is going to get the worst of it as far as effects go.

#144

I don’t think the perspective matters here. Especially in GW, in early game, when 6-8 people rush to the mid capture point, the amount of particle effects on the screen is vast. Check this screenshot taken from the livestream of the last GW2 ESL cup:

Someone who hasn’t played GW2 before won’t understand a thing of what’s happening. But the pros in the ESL league could tell all the Guardian and Elementalist AoEs apart. With practice, you can learn how to do that.

I have had a similar experience with Krieg from Borderlands 2. The first time I played with the Firehawk Shield I sincerely thought I 'd get an epilepsy. But as I continued playing I learnt how to filter the screen and use the minimap to understand what was going on.

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Edit: I just realised the screenshots are from a time I was doing a quest called “Mother-Lover”. Pretty weird…

#145

The shots from Borderlands would be pretty frowned upon in any FPS that was actually competitive without it being a flashbang or smoke. The GW2 is not hard to see. I am talking about visuals in front of you that block literally your entire screen. Kind of like being blinded without the blinded part.

#146

I don’t understand. Could you elaborate or upload a screenshot?

#147

My friend was playing Wrath yesterday on the new map with destructible bases. In melee he would occasionally have large pieces of his screen covered with splash effects and his own visuals, on top of whatever other random effects he happened to be standing near. There seems to be tons of glowing particle effects. Lasers to speed you up, circling little lights near buildings. There were a couple of fights where he was on top of someone and just couldn’t tell where they had gone, and it wasn’t because they went invisible.

The friend I was watching play has played at the highest level of competitive play in UT2004 which is a much faster paced game than this. That seems to be an issue for me. I know there is a learning curve and it probably doesn’t help that he was playing it on a ps4 at the time, but that just screams issues for getting new players in.

We all commented on it while we watched him play, but didn’t think much of it, but I have been frequenting this forum and the one on steam discussions for a while and it seems to be a issue for more than 1 player.

#148

Poor graphic design and I-wish-it-were-Borderlands3 are the two things that are keeping my friends from purchasing Battleborn.

There’s nothing that can be done about it not having the pure PvE emphasis that they want–they’ll just have to wait for BL3, and hope it has no PvP whatsoever.

If Battleborn had Overwatch’s much cleaner graphics, I’m pretty sure I could convince them to pick up Battleborn, which currently looks like somebody grabbed buckets of watercolors and chucked them at a wall. There’s a reason Pixar has a stellar reputation for animation quality, and that’s why the Overwatch team copied the Pixar style.

Personally, since Overwatch doesn’t have any PvE elements, I won’t be buying it. Battleborn…I just wish it had good graphics instead of its epilepsy-inducing-watercolor-mess :disappointed:

I’m sure there are some who like the Battleborn art style, and that’s great, but the players I know can’t stand it. They would prefer to be able to see what’s going on, especially as melee characters, and not have to learn to filter out an ocean of exploding watercolors just to see the game they’re playing.

#149

I’m one for Gearbox doing more then just Borderlands and have been looking forward to Battle-born for quite a while now. Hell, when I pre-ordered BB way back in Closed beta, people were looking at me like if that game even existed. Maybe I was a bit to early in pre-ordering, but I did have a hoot playing the beta…game best not let me down.

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#150

I love the art style of this game and what it is going for but it just isn’t clicking with me anymore. I have been telling people about this game for a long time. Getting people to sign up for the CTT and everything but right now I’m just not feeling it.

I love Borderlands and I respect Gearbox for how much support they have given to that game. I mean they are still doing patches for BL2. That’s amazing!

But the shooting and melee was never the best part of Borderlands. Now to make a competitive game with those things just feels weird.

I don’t get any feel for how my attacks are affecting the game. I feel like I am contribution nothing.

I am also afraid to get this game because you need to rely on a good community for this to work. People that want to communicate and work towards the same goals. That just isn’t happening anymore. People just talk in their personal party if at all.

#151

[quote=“vindo310, post:150, topic:1282963”]But the shooting and melee was never the best part of Borderlands.[/quote]I’d like a minute for rebuttal

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#152

My Truxicai would like a word with you.

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#153

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Outside of loot, they were the only real parts of the game.

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#154

The guns, loot mechanics, level design, the Borderlands universe and the art design were my favorite things. I also loved the MMO quest style mission structure.

For me the shooting was decent and fun but it came after those things. For me melee was not great on a gamepad. And at the very end of my list was driving. I thought driving in Borderlands was pretty bad.

Saying all of that Borderlands 2 is my favorite game ever. I think Gearbox has so much talent.

Right now I want to love Battleborn. I may even buy it just to support Gearbox. But as it is I don’t know why I would play it. What is it that is going to keep me coming back?

If I had a good group of people that were using mics it would be great but nobody does. Borderlands works for me because I don’t have to rely on others to make it a great game.

#155

[quote=“vindo310, post:154, topic:1282963”]What is it that is going to keep me coming back?[/quote]Outside of Borderlands (and TF2), no game really kept me coming back… I’d replay them because they were all there was to play (not that they weren’t fun), but the only real option was replaying the story campaign. BL2 sort of ruined that for me with its endless replayability. I do not anticipate another game that will steal this crown for me with the possible exception of BL3 (and how awesome would a game that’s more fun than BL2 be)?

My point is, I don’t know of any other game that will keep me coming back the way BL2 does, and we’ll see if Battleborn can pull this off. If not, and it’s just fun for a single-player romp through the campaign a couple of times, that’s fine: that’s been the first-person shooter standard basically forever until BL2 “ruined” it. If the multiplayer is somehow more fun than TF2, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

#156

It honestly comes down to a lot of different things. People who have played the Borderlands series are expecting borderlands and don’t want anything different because they don’t want change of their routine of going to Gearbox for BL. I also believe that it’s Blind Leading The Blind, MOBA’s get a lot of hate from people and I hate to say it but people are just jumping on the hate MOBAs bandwagon, which is unfortunate but you can compare it to people hating Nickleback, at this point you don’t know why you hate them but you do, bandwagon. Honestly Gearbox has created this charming and beautiful experience for us, they have brought the funny and beautiful world from Borderlands and have mashed it with a MOBA with their own twist. No a MOBA isn’t original but the gearbox version is a fresh new idea that people just I feel are afraid of. I wouldn’t be worried of the blind hate because in the end the true fans and even new fans will come together to fight the evils of the Galaxy. In the end Battleborn is AWESOME AND A BADASS EXPERIENCE. The haters just can’t handle it. The badass breaks through their minds and it becomes to much Badassery for them to handle. (I’m pained to say a lot of haters haven’t even played the beta, some have so they can have an opinion that matters)

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#157

People don’t realize that they can play both games. They act like if it’s not perfect, it’s trash. I already bought Overwatch and will buy Battleborn once EA refunds me some money…

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#158

Brand spanking new player here. I just got into the beta but was invited not through pre-order. Not sure how that works. I have to say, it is growing on me.

#159

If I could, I’d give you two likes, Pride. I joined the CTT because I enjoy the BL franchise and wanted to see what GBX was up to next. I’m glad I did because now I can’t wait until I can get the game into my hot little hands. I’m also planning on getting the SP sometime after launch.

#160

I will be getting the SP on launch day, Gearbox has put so much into this game that I’m excited for the SP. can’t beat the SP price either

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#161

I’d suggest the digital deluxe if you can. Saves you another 5 bucks!

#162

I love this game so far and thats all that matters.

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