Battleborn PVP improvement Ideas, (TLDR for you lazy....)

Battleborns Pvp has a GREAT base, however it is in my opinion lacking in certain aspects. Balance is not my main concern because it is going to fix itself as players become more suited to their characters and the game progresses. My main issue is the lack of comeback potential. It is my experience that every game is either a 100-0 or a 0-100 ending. Sorry to fall back to my League of Legends backing, but having a “Baron” or “Dragon” buff allows for the losing team to have a fighting chance. The only momentum changer in Incursion seems to be the thrall pads, and those usually are going to the winning team uncontested.

A few ideas I have to help improve PvP in Battleborn:

Buildables need more health. With turrets, (especially tier 3 upgraded turrets), a player can dump a ton of shards into upgrading it, to fall to 2-3 clips from a ranged enemy. These turrets should take a few players to focus it, have fast regenerating health/shields, and to balance these changes, be slightly more expensive to create. Tier 1 seems fine. If you create it, and dont bother upgrading it should fall easily.

Neutral Buff That Requires Multiple Teammates As previously stated, the lack of a neutral enemy thats powerful and requires teamwork to kill is hurting the balance of the game. Part of the competitive side of the game would be contesting this buff. Losing teams often find their enemies over extended out of Cockiness, and in my experience youll get 3-4 kills on a team as they push down your sentry (In incursion). The problem here is that means you have to fight 3-4 waves of minions, just to get a few shots on the enemy outer-sentry, which by that time, the enemy has respawned. If there was a Neutral buff that you could rush to after getting a power play, which buffs your teams pushing power, that would add an immense amount of competitive games, lower surrender rates, and improve overall experience for the players in the game.

Death Timer The timers are really close to perfect, but i do feel they need late game work. I stated in my last paragraph, the respawn timers dont allow time to counter-push fighting against minion waves, and the thralls that the enemy had acquired in their snowball.

Snowballing The main problem with Pvp is strong enemies get stronger with no counterplay to it. Thrall pads, (kill the big enemies, spawn your own big enemies) are so close to the main paths, and so weak to 1-2 players, that it doesnt even inconvenience the winning team to go for them. Theres no risk involved because the losing team is defending waves of minions, and the players that didnt go to the Thrall pads.

Minion Experience While the wave minions give perfect EXP in my opinion, the outside minions dont reward the player with enough of an experience boost to make it worth acquiring. A small boost here would provide levels for those players who want to focus objectives rather than team deathmatch it up.

Matchmaking (Bots?) If a player doesnt show up to the game, it is marked as (Inactive) and they sit in the base. To my understanding there is no punishment for this. Even a Five minute Time out from queuing for another game would deter people from leaving the game or not showing up. A further reach which I dont know if gearbox could implant into the game, replace inactive players with bots. AI that would do basic functions, and work off a difficulty level average of the team you’re on. Even just having an extra body to take enemy bullets would help player morale and win chance.


Game is EXCELLENT, However it could be better. Ideas below should be looked at by the developers.

Buildables need more health.
Neutral Buff That Requires Multiple Teammates
Death Timers should increase (more) late game
*Minion Experience
Matchmaking (Bots?)

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They can’t join a new game until the game they were in ends.


Im aware of that. I shouldve been more clear. If the player doesnt show up to the game, they should be given a post game punishment of something similar to a 5 minute time out.

They are increasing buildable health.

Very good! I didnt see that anywhere, mind if i ask your sources?

i do not like incursion in general, but i definitely think there needs to be a reworking of xp across game modes like incursion and meltdown. they need to increase xp gains from buildables, destroying buildables, and minions in general, as well as perhaps a nerf in player kill xp. really anything to cause more incentive to play objectively, and focus less on player kills

Agreed! An objective focused bonus to experience allows for quicker games thus higher player morale too!

After rereading realized it only says they might change buildable stats. Still the devs have at least acknowledged it.

It’s toward the end in the twitch questions sections. Sorry to get your hopes up, my bad.

Ah at least thats a good sign! Hopefully this post gets more attention, I feel its a good sum up of patchable issues

These forums are hard to maneuver, does anyone know if there are mods or developers ever stalking these suggestions?

Hard to say. It seems if you want the developers to acknowledge your concerns you have to go over to a 3rd party website rather than their official forums. That seems… odd.

That is a little strange. Ive seen some posts on reddit. I copy and pasted this post TO reddit, and its getting alot of support over there as well.