Battleplan 37: 2/2/17

I don’t have to give them ideas they are already doing it. Meldarius isn’t fully developed yet only because they aren’t done

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That question was genuine btw. Does anyone know when the next big update will be? @JoeKGBX
@Jythri

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Sheesh. This thread made me come up out of my element >.>
My posts are usually calm yet slightly insane. playful at times yet have a pinch of seriousness.
But never this serious. I need to get as far away from you lot as Jenneritly possible x.x.
Y’all made the skin colour show today lololol

  • love you all <3
    Note to self: Do I really? >.>
    ~please no more mutant babies @Keadron
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I’m not the father! Can’t blame me for this one :slight_smile:
I’ll call Maury if necessary!

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Funny that your name here is Deande. Considering she watched hundreds die

Deande (queue levity)

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I found a rare moment of toby/@HandsomeCam taunting his foe

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Out of likes for the time being. Here:

Also, @jedc750, if you increase the height and muscle mass, and give him a pompadour, that “normal guy” would be a good enough representation of yours truly. Well, aside from the fact that my unparalleled good looks would instantly defeat the other guy…

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A few things;

Moderators are not responsible for changes done to the game. When you have a grievance with a moderator, please take it up with the moderation staff in the form of Private Message.

On the topic of the “Dev’s with their nerfs and buffs.”

Usually any changes to the game are rigorously tested and then implemented in an incremental fashion, tests yield results within a range, and while the majority of alterations are for the benefit of the game, there are some which have effects that are disputed by the community at times.

This is literally the reason this forum exists, because the developers want to hear what you have to say. And I assure you. They do. They dedicate a lot of time in to meeting the needs of their community.

What advantage do you presume they would get in ‘over-nerfing’ Mel. Some diabolical plan to cause inconvenience while they sit in their penthouse suite while sipping on a Chateau Lafite?

There have been many instances in the past where the Dev’s further tinkered a previous tinker. That is the manner of tinkering. Or people worked around aspects of a character of the momentary discomfort became a thing of the past.

They’re not investing time and effort in to altering the game to alienate the community. And it isn’t as if they could ‘profit’ from nerfing a character.

Dev’s do their best to take everything on here in to account folks. Please, let’s think rationally about these things before fielding accusations.

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Is your picture Zhuge Liang?
Because that’s all I see <3

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I don’t think there has been an instance before of a character losing it’s identity to be more like another existing character has there? We complained about the original venom nerf because it lowered everything about the character including her melee (even with its buff) which the devs didn’t seem to be aware of. Just because they test doesn’t mean they catch everything or that we shouldn’t point these things out.
Mel losing her venom/playstyle/ identity is something that I have and will to continue to comment on. As the silence from devs on her losing this has been very loud
If I wanted to play Cal I would have chosen Cal not Melka

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Dear Gearbox,

No one seems happy with your vision for “new” Mellka. Please revert changes and make a new character for this newly desired playstyle.

-Disappointed and upset but still yours (for now),
Echo :disappointed_relieved:

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OR they just want to make “the fist” which is a big part of her lore, actually good, besides caldarius is more on the shooter part, and has a less detailed melee (it’s just two swipes)

Just to make this clear, yes, I do use his blade a lot, but the gun more

If that was the case simply buffing the damage on her melee to make it worth the risk while leaving her squishy would have solved that issue. This has gone far beyond that. Melka without her venom dot is just a Cal wannabe
They said they wanted her melee to be viable which is great but to destroy her current play style not so much.

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Here, I added some more people for you

To be fair, what the forums have been saying forever is that mellka has been a worse caldarius for a long time now, besides they probably (and I mean they should) are giving it more stuff two, I mean her old ult was gaining a blade to slash people with

Oh she is definitely a worse Cal now! Each update pushes her more and more in that direction. Melka has always had venom (dot) at her core removing that removes Melka and just helps push Meldarius that much closer.

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Any concerns result in then telling us to give things try before reacting

So we try, tentatively of course, as our love for this game makes us rather suspicious of change

And when we find out we don’t like it, they’re suddenly mum. It’s difficult to know if they take our advice all the time. Hearing things like one of the devs response to @dantesolar’s post a while back about various legendaries incorrect implementation help a lot, as well as @dante_d_silva’s mentions that he uses Edens work often in discussions about Mellka

I don’t think we think they’re doing it evilly. We think they’re not communicating as well as they may could be about concerns we have for the very first character we play in this game. Who’s still labelled easy, by the by (hilarious).

We’re more concerned about a potential chance that ofc, Grant can’t play every character neatly enough to understand all of their incredibly specific details. For example, the El Dragõn bicycle en fuego tech. It’s given him a much better use of his ult that excites hoho and adds another dimension to the use. As they’ve shown by using Edens work, they learned something from her.
The concern is not that they’re acting maliciously, but that some of our time here is misspent if we aren’t actually being heard by Grant. He could very well be listening. I very we imagine he is. But we have no proof he is. He actually appears more vocal over on the reddit, an unofficial forum

But why release more changes we expressed don’t work well and don’t make sense? If they’re willing to cite Eden before but now when she literally had to leave because her main is being reduced to irrelevancy (to be fair, this is also because soon she’ll be more melee oriented and melee is difficult in red bar, but she’d prefer more time with Mellka, but now it’s just ruining her past memories) they seem to ignore her? Selective hearing would be the problem if anything

I 100% love how vocal they are, and they have made and are making an awesome game. We simply have become very attached (as they very well need us to be to survive), and we’re obviously opposed when something like this happens. Now

Then are they doing it? We know they won’t profit obviously. We know where she’s heading bit she shouldn’t be destroyed like this without telling us
"Hey, we’re gonna try some new things with Mellka. Please try to be patient and know they’re not indicative of her future. We’ll try not to keep them as they are for too long, but your data will help us see what she should become."

We are asking for communication. We know it’s meant to be a catalyst. But right now that catalyst produces nothing noticeable. I’m okay if our little Mountain Dew Mellka becomes sprite Mellka with a little alcohol we’re not supposed to know about in there. But we don’t love having to deal with diet seltzer (used to be normal seltzer, this BP changed that) in between

That was long. I wasn’t really arguing with you I suppose. I just feel that these concerns exist, and we are thinking rationally. I just feel defeated with her. She’s only fun drunk now (coincidentally). And who knows what’s next week? An air stall cooldown nerf in exchange for faster reload speed?

The community response has been pretty dang negative, and they’ve yet to address us. Until then, it feels fair to mention how they haven’t addressed it.

A side note (not to you):
While I may sound entitled as some would say, we are here to proliferate discussion about the game. This is the most pressing topic. And if we are supposed to be positive, what does that achieve? We all just sit there smiling? I will praise every new decision I love (almost all) and discuss every single thing I see, but it’s the discussion of the negatives that promote change, and isn’t that the end goal? We all want this the game to be the best it can be, and we have to work together. Fight together or die in the dark. The devs are a large part of that statement. And we appreciate neatly every thing they do. But that prevents us from being okay with things that hurt the game we love so dearly. Thanks for reading this super long post:heart_exclamation:

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To give a less formal post, I feel like I don’t really want to even read Battleplans anymore. I have a sense of dread about changes to the game anymore, and while I don’t play Mellka, I feel like a friend of mine is just continually getting bullied (because she is…I’m so sorry, Eden…). I haven’t been posting for too long but I have been around…and it’s disheartening how erratic the changes seem. I am hoping this is all an elaborate practical joke. I know how dramatic it sounds, but in my mind, it’s as if they took a Borderlands character and randomly decided to completely change their action skill after the first Dlc or two, right after people were used to it and the character was well defined. :sweat:

That’s what she was before: defined.

Was. :pensive:

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This was before all the nerfs dude

How can a character that was always called a worse caldarius on these forums considered defined