If you really see a whole community in the actions of one person…
There will always be bad apples its just human nature but if the rest of us can just lead by example the community will be strong.
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The thing is, people generally do. They go to vacation somewhere, they get their wallet stolen and they will be like “don’t go there, they’ll steal your wallet”. It might not be the prime example of deduction, but people generally, on a subconscious level, do think like that. Unless they engage in some field and dedicate time and experience into it, in which case they will be very systematic.
Widowmaker doesn’t seem to mind.
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Can we just keep this on topic, there are plenty of overwatch vs battleborn threads. This is about the community.
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It won’t help anything, but it’s the reality of the situation. I was like that, I had faster reflexes and was very hyped when I no-scoped someone or BXRd them. I had montages and loved Halo to no end. Part of why it was so great is and always will be the simplicity of the first games, they weren’t overly complicated.
The depth of gameplay came from individual skill in a teamwork environment, much like OW. It was similar when I played TF.
Over the years, though, I’ve changed my habits and gradually moved toward enjoying beating people off of a mix of individual skill and out-thinking them. It may come off as snarky, but, seriously, there is less depth to OW. “More depth” doesn’t necessarily translate into “better game” tho so that’s a moot point. To a lot of OW fans, that’s what makes it “better”: Simpler interface. Simpler learning curves to each character (which is what lets you swap on the fly so quickly) simpler abilities and mechanics, simpler graphics, which let you process what’s going on faster, simpler game-mode objectives. It’s all there to boil the game down to the aspect that the players want in it, which is point and click, fast-paced shooter action.
It’s like an iPhone, the average consumer does not care that an Android can do more, they want it to just be simple and work. I’m not going to tell them that android is better, because to them it’s not, but android certainly has more features. In fact, I think that’s a pretty spot on analogy, OW is an iPhone and BB is an Android.
COD, however, was really only meant as a fast example, just meant the more frenetic, short matches, although I do see a lot of similarities in the crowd attracted to the two, aiming skill is downplayed for proper positioning and getting your abilities off first, I feel like if I spray my weapons in their general direction, they always hit, and a lot of the time I don’t feel like I earned my head-shot kills (much like in COD) and they seem to attract a similar crowd. All of my “COD” friends are certainly playing OW now at least.
As for your first paragraph, clearly you’re seeing something in the game that I don’t see or value, I don’t believe I’ve ever felt out of place in a game due to poor camera weight or hit feedback. To be honest they sound like gibberish to me, doesn’t mean they’re not important to you, I’ve just never noticed any issues with weapon philosophy.
Except team composition is more important than in something like DotA, for example. Or Battleborn. Actually, the main reason of potential OW downfall is its inherent mechanical team reliance which is upped to absurd levels compared to ANY game on the market currently. Started with HotS, “perfected” with OW.
Reason your CoD friends are playing OW is because blizzard did a very poor job of marketing the game when it comes to gameplay mechanics. The game will be either ruined due to that or they will stop playing it the way they do (I would bet on the former).
Funilly you mention iphone and android, because I paused with first person shooters for ~17 years because of them being iphoned and then androidized back with OW, but ok.
debatable. depth isn’t how complicated he game is or how complex the interface is. Chess can be learned in three minutes but it has tremendous depth. And that is a valuable component. It provides replayability, different approaches, tactics etc. You are again pushing that agenda how overwatch is shallow and consumeristic instead of differently deep compared to BB.
Well, ok, let them be gibberish. To me it seems that you simply lack experience in standard shooters and played a lot of modern ones, based from your answers.
I am saying why OW is good, not why your CoD friends happen to like it. There’s a difference.
Anyway, whatever, both of our opinions don’t matter, I just think you shouldn’t almost factually present something that is clearly an assumption on your side. I think that’s precisely the passive-aggressive venom that might be even more potent than what that person wrote on that screenshot.
“it might sound snarky” - it IS snarky. You acquired a veni vidi vici approach to some activity you have no desire to participate in and also tested it for a brief time (I’d assume less than ~100 hours total, which is nothing for a game like that). And I have a feeling you would be one of the first to criticize someone on going “bb is bad because of xyz” in that exact situation.
Anyway, it really doesn’t matter. I will silently retreat from this thread, carry on. And be the example of what this thread is about.
It started with an interesting thread and then the war began…
Now let’s wait and see who will say “he started it” first.
[quote=“Ganjamira, post:5, topic:1480799, full:true”]Stop the mutual hating - Have some Orendi icecream! 
Not enough guts.
On topic: The Battleborn community is quite nice.
Even more in PvE where peoples help others to get their challenges (By playing someone requested) and stuff like that.
And to be honest, sometimes i even feel like i’m the saltiest f*ck of the day. (Though, there is some peoples who prove me wrong.)
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And that is precisely what I talked about in my first post in this thread. This was supposed to be how a community can influence some notion, but nope, regardless of the original notion, it had to go to gameplay comparisons and stuff… But I think this is a great showcase of what the original post is about. At least something.
That said, I think the moderation should be more strict. And more cautious. Although it sounds paradoxical.
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Why can’t we all just get along?
I agree that we’ve had plenty of bad posts relating to OW, both in support of it and knocking it. I’ve mentioned in another thread how besides marketing, there’s very little in common with BB and that makes me question why all the aggro.
This forum does support and thrive upon open discussion, limited by some simple rules based around good etiquette and manners, and forum functionality (avoiding off-topic, duplicate threads, etc) and I’m quite proud of the gearbox community as a whole. As far as the forum community goes, we have a very active mod team, and a robust flag system. When people ignore this structure is when things go wrong.
It’s great that people are passionate about games. It bothers me when than passion becomes hostility towards others who don’t share the same opinion, even though they may be equally- if differently- passionate. We’re all gamers. Why fight over what basically comes down to personal preferences? If everyone played the same game the industry would shut down. There’s no ‘right’ (or ‘wrong’) way to spend one’s leisure time. Just whatever is fun for each individual…
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I think you’re getting upset about objective things I’m mentioning about OW and taking them personally… you should probably not do that, it’s quite silly.
I don’t see the reasons to attack me, but sure, if you feel the need to question my “credentials” as a shooter player go right ahead… but just so you know, I’m a 30+ year-old disabled vet. Most of my free time is spent playing video games, and most of that time is spent playing shooters. I’d assure you, although I doubt you’ll believe me, that I’ve spent quite a bit of time, probably more than most, playing every shooter I can get my hands on, not just the “Big titles” but they’re the easiest ones to mention during discussion because everyone has played them at some point in time.
And who said I have no desire to participate in the activity? As I mentioned, I actually like parts of OW, and I’ll pick it up when it’s cheaper. I certainly see it’s appeal. I know why people buy iPhones, because they’re sleek and simple… doesn’t mean that I want to get rid of my Android.
lol, and no, you KNOW I didn’t spend 100 hours on OW, I don’t own it, I just played it for the week it was in beta… a few hours every night. And I beg to differ, I certainly don’t need to play more than the time I spent on the game to understand what it’s about, it’s really not that deep, pick/counter pick is the “deepest” aspect of the game, and you can get a rough understanding of that in just a few days, especially when you’re playing with people who do have hundreds of hours spent in the game since Alpha.
You’re listening to the points that I’m praising about the game… the points every reviewer has praised about the game, and taking them as insults. That really is rather silly. No need to get up in arms, OW is the clean, simple, polished shooter. That’s what it is. BB is the dirty, deeper, less polished, has some issues, first person/Moba hybrid game thing.
I don’t care about twitchy super-polished games as much as I used to, I like in-depth games that do weird, new things (like making an FP Moba) I certainly am not getting butt-hurt that you prefer the other. Don’t take things so personally, you’ll be much happier.
Can we stop acting like each others parents, dad? Please?
Read the forum rules that I just mentioned and stop talking about other forum users like that, Step-uncle twice removed?
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How could I know that? I played ~1000 hours of OW. The game wasn’t created in ten minutes and voila.
And your “I beg to differ” is completely different from your former notion. “I beg to differ is perfectly fine”.
Sorry, those are the weirdest praises I’ve ever heard then. It’s like “this pop song is catchy and more power to it, I am just more of a Bach person” - this isn’t the implication of how the pop song is good, it’s the implication that maybe the author knows how to engage the masses with his populistic product, while Bach is objectively better.
That isn’t praising.
Maybe I misunderstood you.
This right here is a dismissive, factual indirect statement because yes, your posts do come off as passive aggressive.
And what about this? Is this the constructive and objective position you are claiming you are taking?
Immature and condescending for no reason. Even if you are the same age as me and might be younger.
I said that I am under impression that you played modern shooters because of how you analyze and present Overwatch. YOU took it as an insult. Then proceeded to throw the notion of being insulted onto me.
My notion of you being invested in modern shooters was NOT condescending, it was observational. I didn’t mean to present it as something bad, but as something tangential to evaluating OW. Because you yourself said that bunch of things I’ve mentioned don’t mean much to you. But whatever.
And yes, I am pretty frustrated, because every god damn time I go here, there’s some offtopic thing about OW being “xyz”. Which would be fine if it was to draw a point - for example, obviously, this thread will have a lot of overwatch in it because it’s inherently tied to it, but not in the gameplay comparison sense, but rather in the sense of approach of various communities to their respective games and how they influence others etc.
But no, every single topic that has overwatch in it (which isn’t a sin by itself) has to go into the direction whether TTK is somethingsomething and why it’s better in ow/bb compared to other.
Sorry, got carried away and replied while you were writing that, so I didn’t see it. I won’t engage into back and forth off topic anymore.
@V0LUM3, @Doolio, I think you should read my posts above. Closed while you take the time to do that.
Talk about the game. Not the forum users.
Right. PMs exchanged, carry on. Let’s really try to be a better community. Thanks.
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Regarding the building of a better community:
I thought long about hosting a fancreation and fanart-contest on the Battleborn-group on deviantArt (or at my profile there, my BB-group is still so small -.-) and I wondered if the forum-rules allow that I might advertise this contest here @Psychichazard ?
At best I´d like to host it on this forums itself, but I´m not sure if GBX would tolerate that…
Just to sum it up:
I wanted to put up 3 of my BB-fancafts & maybe the official “5 figure collection” as prices for the most badass fancreations & ideas that enter the contest.
Of course I´d need to search some people for a jury first, don´t wanna judge entries alone. Would be even better if GBX-devs themselves be the jury, but thats just a fangirls fantasy^^
Just wanted to do something positive & productive, like @wisecarver ´s idea to built lifesize Battleborn figures
-> Come on Gearbox, we'll build these for you!
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