"Best Build" for Gaige?

[Gulfwulf (Cast Iron Chef)]

Nope. @pokapoka isn’t very active anymore.

[pokapoka (ネコババするど～)]

I miss those days…

[ACNAero (Boring Ol' Album Cover)]

Gasp. He returns!

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

Nice to see you popping up again.
Old forums were better in any way…

[pokapoka (ネコババするど～)]

Yup, they were.

Good times; good memories.

[Raven_Ghosthawk ([-10h GMT] PSN: Raven-Ghosthawk || Tastefully Deletious)]

I’d like some input on a 654 build I derived from Bahroo’s in this video:

http://bl2skills.com/mechromancer.html#450100140551251151050050415103011000

[kenloe]

I’m casting resurrection here as I have basically the same question(s) as the thread title, but for lvl 52 and ahead (she just finished TVHM). I read this thread completely a few weeks ago and want to reread it carefully for the info already presented, but a couple of questions of mine weren’t covered, and I’ll ask those below.

I guess I’m aiming at a mix of BFF and OC; I do use DT but not as often as I should, tbh…most of her strengths have come from Anarchy/Discord and weapons selections. This is her current build and COM…

…I haven’t been following any particular build here, I’ve just been putting points into what I think will be good. I waited on Close Enough and Nth Degree until late in TVHM thinking that it’d be good to have at least some of each ready when UVHM begins. I’m also planning on maxing Preshrunk Cyberpunk fairly soon.

Questions…

• Is 20% Cooler worth it? I could reach it with points into CE and TBH and not feel as if I’d wasted points to get to it, and I’ll take any cooldown reduction I can get (a Bone for later on, for one thing).
• People seem mixed on Rational Anarchist; to me, it makes sense and it’s only a single point. Thoughts?
• Weapons: I’ve been thinking that, assuming a max’d Anarchy, NthD and CE, guns with any combination of bullet split, low mag size, and reasonable accuracy (think hip-shot some of the time, except obviously for snipers) are the way to go. And a slag gun and grenade. Am I off-base here?

Current weapons include a corrosive Pimp, an electric Practicible CC (gonna hate it when that lvl’s out), and some Torgue pistols and ARs (these are where the hip-shooting comes in usually, but I kinda surprised at being able to ADS reasonably well with a bunch of Anarchy built up). I haven’t really settled on a shield yet.

So yeah…stuff. Thoughts?

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

Is 20% Cooler worth it? I could reach it with points into CE and TBH and not feel as if I’d wasted points to get to it, and I’ll take any cooldown reduction I can get (a Bone for later on, for one thing).

If you want more DT in the field, pick it up, combined with a Bone it’ll cut down on the CD alot.

People seem mixed on Rational Anarchist; to me, it makes sense and it’s only a single point. Thoughts?

I’d personally recommend it, 25 free stacks for a single point is a no brainer if you ask me.

Weapons: I’ve been thinking that, assuming a max’d Anarchy, NthD and CE, guns with any combination of bullet split, low mag size, and reasonable accuracy (think hip-shot some of the time, except obviously for snipers) are the way to go. And a slag gun and grenade. Am I off-base here?

First, 250 stacks are more than enough for mobbing, it still leaves with some accuracy while still giving a mayor damage boost. With the correct gear she doesn’t need slag unless you plan to go for the OP levels aswell. Depending on if you are going to use slag grenades (and type) you won’t really need to have a specific slag gun.

For more specific gear choices, I’d like to link you to the Top gear topic:

Top Gear for Gaige!

So, with Kalibur's permission I am reposting this and making it more available to edit along with a more active member of the BL2 forums. I have his permission: and so I am reposting this and hosting the OP. Submissions for Top Gear should be resubmitted, and changes suggested. I am fully open to any players ideas given my own testing and play at OP8. I shall be testing these guns on request at a variety of stack amounts (someone help me out here, I don't want to go around at 400 constantly…

[ACNAero (Boring Ol' Album Cover)]

• Is 20% Cooler worth it?

Do you use DT a lot? If so, then yes.

• People seem mixed on Rational Anarchist; to me, it makes sense and it’s only a single point. Thoughts?

I’d rather have the point elsewhere. But if you want it, go for it.

So yeah…stuff. Thoughts?

Yeah, take the points from More Pep and start on Unstoppable Force. This is a skill I see as underused and underrated. The shield regen on kill means that your shield stays up in between kills while you’re moving from enemy-to-enemy, and the movement speed bonus helps reach the enemies faster, so it has good synergy with the playstyle that a high-Anarchy build encourages. As for shields, I have a likening for Anshin and Pangolin shields.

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

Yeah, take the points from More Pep and start on Unstoppable Force. This is a skill I see as underused and underrated. The shield regen on kill means that your shield stays up in between kills while you’re moving from enemy-to-enemy, and the movement speed bonus helps reach the enemies faster, so it has good synergy with the playstyle that a high-Anarchy build encourages.

This aswell. BUT, I’d rather take the points out of CUT when you have some Moxxi weapons/healing grenades.

[kenloe]

I forgot to ask about MP…thanks.

I’d rather take the points out of CUT when you have some Moxxi weapons/healing grenades.

I don’t mind trans grenades, but I try not to rely on Moxxie guns 'cause…not sure, actually. Maybe its time to rethink that bit, especially since they’re rather nice guns overall.

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

I don’t mind trans grenades, but I try not to rely on Moxxie guns 'cause…not sure, actually. Maybe its time to rethink that bit, especially since they’re rather nice guns overall.

During a battle, CUT doesn’t well, cut it. Moxxi gear heals you without losing too much DPS.

[l_gabrielcruz (Spark Seeker)]

• Is 20% Cooler worth it? I could reach it with points into CE and TBH and not feel as if I’d wasted points to get to it, and I’ll take any cooldown reduction I can get (a Bone for later on, for one thing).

If you want to spec Sharing is Caring, yes. But, at 72, you will have enough points to grab it anyway if you dont want to spec into LBT.

• People seem mixed on Rational Anarchist; to me, it makes sense and it’s only a single point. Thoughts?

Pick it if you like to use Discord or think about Discord looping. With timed reloads you will never end Discord.

• Weapons: I’ve been thinking that, assuming a max’d Anarchy, NthD and CE, guns with any combination of bullet split, low mag size, and reasonable accuracy (think hip-shot some of the time, except obviously for snipers) are the way to go. And a slag gun and grenade. Am I off-base here?

Try to search the Nth Degree thread for guns for good synergy. See also the Top Gear thread.
But yes, Pimpernel, CC, Fibber and Hail are guns that basically every Gaige player use due to bullet spliting and fixed pattern. See also the Hydra, Swordsplosion and the Blockhead.
For grenades, Magic Missile or slag Transfusions are the best options for slagging in my opinion.

So yeah…stuff. Thoughts?

Try this for lv 50 and see if it fits your playstyle. This spec has some basic synergies like Myelin, BSS and US. From here, you can either go down to 20% Cooler and use the Legendary Mechromancer COM or go down to Wires Don’t Talk and use the Necromancer COM.

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

Pimpernel, CC, Fibber and Hail are guns that basically every Gaige player use

I disagree.
My loadout contaisn the Tattler, Kitten, Twister and Bekah. Occasionally the Flakker or Pimp, ut the latter might get replaced by the Pitchfork if I can find it in shock.

[l_gabrielcruz (Spark Seeker)]

Sorry!!
I just pointed the well known and effective Gaige guns. I forgot about the Twister, though.
Also, the Tattler seems like a good call. The Slagga has a similar pattern so it should be good. Your last call, the Emperor, was a blast in my opinion.

And what about the Pitchfork? It got popular in TPS as a boss killer but is it good with Gaige?

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

Your last call, the Emperor, was a blast in my opinion.

Emperor is vastly underrated, and a good replacement when you can’t find a Bekah.

Also, the Tattler seems like a good call.

tattler is pretty much a Slagga, but without being slag only. Which is why it is my favorite Bandit smg.

forgot about the Twister, though.

Twister is love, Twister is live.

And what about the Pitchfork? It got popular in TPS as a boss killer but is it good with Gaige?

25 pellets downrange while ads, coupled with 5 points in Nth degree should make Constructors flee in shame. And since it has a rather large horizontal (fixed) spread, accuracy is not an issue, unlike the Pimp. It comes at the cost of less efficiency however.

[l_gabrielcruz (Spark Seeker)]

Emperor is vastly underrated, and a good replacement when you can’t find a Bekah.

I find the burst accuracy amazing, even with some Anarchy stacked. Top gear, in my opinion.

tattler is pretty much a Slagga, but without being slag only. Which is why it is my favorite Bandit smg.

I like it when Playing as Maya with the Legendary Cat COM. Never played with it as the others VH though.

25 pellets downrange while ads, coupled with 5 points in Nth degree should make Constructors flee in shame. And since it has a rather large horizontal (fixed) spread, accuracy is not an issue, unlike the Pimp. It comes at the cost of less efficiency however.

I see. Maybe I will to test it later if I have time!

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

I find the burst accuracy amazing, even with some Anarchy stacked. Top gear, in my opinion.

I agree, and it stays relatively accurate at higher stacks. Benefits well from TBH.

I like it when Playing as Maya with the Legendary Cat COM. Never played with it as the others VH though.

huge synergy with both Nth Degree and CE. Brings alot of hurts since both skills compensate for the horrible accuracy. And when TBH kicks in, its even better.

[MidnightNova ([In Memories Delusional - Got Snivy'd])]

I see. Maybe I will to test it later if I have time!

Forgot to say, looking forward to your findings.

[kenloe]

Big thanks, all of y’all, for the advice…this is my first Mechro and I’m now understanding why she’s considered one of the more difficult characters to spec out (so many ways to go).