#9

As long as you donā€™t get in the mindset ā€œdefender means fromtline and soaks damageā€ you can easily do well with Toby. My first few attempts were disasterous because of this. Once I realized the range of his railgun though (which is can you see it?), things got way better. He is the perfect little guard penguin.

Also if he curses he apologizesā€¦heck if he kills you he apologizes. Most adorable lil guy ever. Just donā€™t say that to his faceā€¦heā€™ll murder you (and then apologize).

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#10

Well this really really sucks. I got my gf to start playing this with me solely based on her loving Toby and wanting to try him out. While this wonā€™t stop me from getting Battleborn, I sure as hell wonā€™t ever buy another Sony console/product ever again, they just lost me as a customer permanently.

#11

Why?! Donā€™t get me wrong, companies do plenty of bad crap, but shelling out more money for earlier/exclusive Beta content isnā€™t one of them.

#12

Thatā€™s your opinion, not mine. After playing with my gf through half the night, passing out and hopping back on the next day JUST to try and unlock Toby, which was the only reason she even wanted to try the game, only to find out after it said she unlocked it, then couldnā€™t figure out why she couldnā€™t pick him, then to find out about what Sony did, yeah Iā€™m sorry but f* them, they totally ruined the game for us.

#13

But Toby will be available for everyone once the entire game is releasedā€¦No character exclusives for different platforms. Heā€™ll be there for you to play in full penguin glory. :penguin:

#14

First of all, you could have read any of the Beta news, it said that Toby was exclusive to the PS4 Beta. But thatā€™s not my confusion.

My confusion is to why youā€™re not made with Gearbox or 2k Games, or the Battleborn team in particular. Why Sony?

Analogy:
I go to the Farmerā€™s Market and I talk to the farmer. The Farmer says heā€™s bringing Watermelons on June 10th. Everyone will have access to the same watermelons on June 10th. I offer him 10 thousand dollars to be able to look at the watermelons on June 3rd. Of course, he says yes, I can look at the watermelons!

Who are you going to be mad at?

#15

Exclusives are used by companies to be the choice for people who only want one console. Blaming the company for wanting to push their product is silly. If you donā€™t have their console either go buy one, or just wait.

I was upset about the xbone exclusive on tomb raider, but I made my decision to not buy one. I wonā€™t hate on microsoft for shelling out to get that exclusive. At the end of the day these are all businesses and they are doing what they feel is neccessary to ensure a profit.

And as said above, why blame just sony? Why not gearbox? Why not microft for mak8ng a counter offer or getting an exclusive to another character?

#16

Analogy:
I go to the Farmerā€™s Market and I want to buy a watermelon for my gf who was really excited to try one when she heard they had them. So we get to the market after a long drive and walk up full of excitement, seeing the watermelons right in front of us. The farmer hands us the watermelon and then when we try to pay for it he says, ā€œSorry I canā€™t let you have it, this rich fella Mr. Sony was just here and gave me a ton of money not to let anyone that isnā€™t part of his family have one.ā€

So yeah, f* them, Iā€™m not mad at the farmer(gearbox), Iā€™m mad at Sony for ruining our experience with the beta. At the end of the day if I donā€™t like what a business is doing, I donā€™t have to buy their products, plain and simple.

Iā€™m glad he wonā€™t be exclusive when the game comes out and I hope I clarified why I feel the way I do.

#17

Well thatā€™s where youā€™re wrong, he wouldnā€™t have handed you a watermelon if it belonged to someone else. What Salesmen have you been around?

In any case it should make you want to buy a PS4 more just so you can get everything. And at least itā€™s not super exclusive compared to Batman games.

Quit being a baby and man up. And if you wonā€™t man up then stop whining, you arenā€™t going to get sympathy.

#18

And replies like this do nothing but add unwanted tension and bait arguments.

If you cant say something in a respectful manner, then dont say it.

Pleaseandthanks.

#19

Toby is fun to play, and funny with his little quips through the fights. I admit though I kinda suck at playing him, but going to use the tips someone posted earlier, cause I was trying to play him as a frontliner like Montana or Boldur.

#20

Fair enough.

But I will point out that the analogy is still incorrect:
ā€œI go to the Farmerā€™s Market after deciding to ignore that the watermelon guy I desire to order from is all out of watermelons and posted about it and I want to buy a watermelon for my gf who was really excited to try one when she heard they had them. So we get to the market after a long drive and walk up full of excitement, seeing the watermelons right in front of us The farmer is quick to reply, sorry but these are on reserve. And then you go on your merry way.ā€

THIS is what happened. Iā€™m sorry that you ā€œwastedā€ your time. But spending all night playing the game sounds like a good time to me!

#21

Penguins make me happy :penguin:

#22

Joel, it was an analogy. The analogy being that in game once she won 5 games with a rogue character, it said she unlocked Toby, which we soon found out was not true. I appreciate your thoughtful ā€œman upā€ response and Iā€™ve only been replying to comments in order to clarify my rationale, I have never been looking for any sympathy. In regards to your comment saying it should make me want to buy a PS4 even more, you are incorrect. I am against exclusives and will not support them. I never said I wasted my time either, just that having this happen rather ruined what was otherwise a very enjoyable experience. TTFN

#23

Fair enough, I apologize for being testy.

But for someone anti-exclusives you better just trash you Microsoft, Nintendo, etc. products because Sony is getting ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  in the exclusives department.

And Sony overall is just a better product, canā€™t be argued with.

EDIT: well you can argue, but it wonā€™t get you far, the hardware is superior

#24

Iā€™m mainly a PC player, only have a Wii U console for some mario kart fun and a PS3 I havenā€™t turned on in about 2 years. I think things like this have only helped push me away from consoles. Cheers to you all and enjoy the game, peace!

#25

Mr. Master Race with the most exclusives out of anything over here and he wonā€™t buy Sony products because of exclusives, hahahahaha.

Iā€™m sorry, I love consoles and Sony products, I get a bit on the defense when people talk negatively about them.

I bet youā€™re a cool dude, I just think that if you are going to hate one thing for exclusives you canā€™t be exclusive to hating that one thing when EVERYONE does it.

Iā€™m done arguing Mr. Moderator

#26

Best of luck! I hope you reconsider supporting the initial release. Happy Gaming.

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#28

Donā€™t ignore moderator requests to stop insulting other forum users.