#11

I never quite understood this. Its not like its hard to fix. Id much rather work on an empty proficiency stat than grind for badass tokens.

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#12

Yeah, all it takes is some Guardian Killing or the sneaky “get Rakk Hive or Craw down to 1% health and finish them off with low proff weapon type” method.

#13

And I’d rather just shoot stuff in face as I please. : )

#14

I certainly prefer how you don’t end up having to boost stats you don’t like. What I’d like is a more flexible bad ass rank system. Don’t have it force you to boost low stats. Have each stat something you can disable on it’s own. AND let it allow you to put points into more stats. Like SMG mastery, Pistol mastery, etc…

And more! Oz kit air capacity, Oz kit slam damage, melee speed.

What I love about bad ass rank is being able to improve all my characters at once and effectively making my brand new characters more and more uber.

Bad ass rank in the future
#15

Very true. At end game you can max out a new stat just fighting high experience stuff. I maxed out pistols fighting Crawmerax worms. Yet I hadn’t really used them much the whole game.

However, once you max them the only thing left is finding better gear. And they don’t help your other characters. Plus, I think the challenges in the bad ass rank system are more fun to target. Sort of a game within the game.

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#16

I have nothing against BA rank, but would gladly trade it in (if given the choice between the two) for the return of weapon proficiencies.

What I love about proficiencies is that the game rewards you directly for your style of play.

#17

Back to on topic. Yea. BL1 had a different feel to it. It’s kinda hard to nail down. The pirates DLC for BL2 actually reminded me the most of BL1 because of the dried out sea concept. If you read about Arches national park you’ll know what I mean. Borderlands 1 had a lot of places that reminded me of that park. That said, I enjoy the heck out of both games.

The funniest thing I thought of related to comparing both games recently is this:
imagine the player who played BL2 first and then went to check out #1. What’s priceless is: the first time he realizes that fall damage is implemented in BL1 when he’s used to jumping off all kinds of stuff in BL2.

edit: also I love the pre sequel for it’s different feel and new mechanics and classes.

#18

So… how about if they extended proficiencies to everything then?

IF you use turtle shields a lot then your turtle shields get even higher shield capacity and lower recharge delay.

Use amp shields a lot? Your amp shields get a shorter delay and higher amp damage.

Roid shield bonus: longer delay and higher roid damage.

In other words, logical bonuses would be applied to heavy usage of any type of item. Tesla grenades would grow in size and damage.

#19

An Elder Scrolls approach? I could get behind that.

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#20

Yeah all ~100 damage of it. It was never an issue except at really low levels.

And Baron Flynts dig site, but that was a killbox, not fall damage.

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#21

To even add to that. What if after maxing out the proficiency. You unlock a small skill tree. That has skill points to be spent on specific character upgrades. Even though it makes me shutter to even mention this broke Game. But along the lines of Destiny and its armor attributes Or maybe enhancing AOE effects and Range. To make that weapon even more personal to the character you’re using it for

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#22

bl1 feels more like fallout2 style wise.

It’s darker, grittier, although less polished in most aspects (music, item management, quests etc)

#23

I like that they dropped it. You had a game with bazillion guns, and were encouraged to use an eighth of them. You might find a cool looking sniper and go “nah, better build my revolver proficiency”. They probably wanted to let you use anything with impunity and I couldn’t agree more

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#24

But Bl1 was easy enough that you could use whatever you wanted.

I understand while people like BAR more, but I can’t grasp how people think Proficency stopped them using guns.

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#25

Agreed. Though Destiny did add some useful ideas to the loot based shooter genre.

#26

I’ve felt it both ways.

#27

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#28

I’ve remarked before that consistency is optional to bl, but it’s part of its charm.

Your comments about nerfing drop rates is appropos. I have recently returned to bl1 having played it when it came out on pc. The drop rates are -wonderful-, much more like ReaperOfSouls where Blizzard upped the drop rates, but always improve and keep the game fresh making grifting a fun pastime.

Unlike you I’ve gone op8 on all characters, after solo playing sal and axton to op8 entirely. What keeps me coming back to bl2 and now bl1 is the entertainment value of the farm. The game play to pass through an area, or to kill a raid boss fast for loot or the real way for the fight.

Gbx added higher difficulty levels because the fan base asked for it, back when gbx seemed to have a less dissmissive attitude towards their customers. I planned to get the hansome collection, just for bl2 gameplay on ps4, but find that purchase jeopardized by recent events, including the drop nerf for tps, treatment of some notables, and other dismaying news. I really have to wonder if the only meaningful objection is to keep my cash.

The Battleborn gameplay video (18min) also leaves me wondering. It’s like a Destiny, very gorgeous graphics, but the storyline execution seems haphazard (much like bl – but in this case much worse). I realize the gameplay as well as storyline is pre-alpha, but it just doesn’t look enticing, perhaps because moba hasn’t grabbed me much, but also because it feels a little like Daikatana syndrome.

#29

What?

The graphics in BattleBorn arnt that impressive, and your making judgments about the story from half of a out of context mission?

Even in the small section it had more Dialouge than most Bl1 missions.

#30

The graphics remind me of the BL series and I like what I’ve seen so far. I’ll reserve criticism until it’s released and I can see what all is included. I did like the part about “decrypting” the computer though. :wink: