BL3 Went full Leftist, so many subliminal leftist agendas in the campaign

[SuitableTrain8 (Spilled the Paint)]

I really hate getting into politics ugh also hate defending Trump

So every Trump supporter is an idiot ? Or at least that’s how you throw it out there. I don’t know if that’s true. I sure find a lot of folks on both sides that fit into the brain dead catagory.

In the end I just want to run around and shoot stuff with a lot of explosions. I don’t need my video games to have a political agenda, sexual agenda, or gender agenda…

[Hattie (Sloth in the time of corona)]

In the end I just want to run around and shoot stuff with a lot of explosions.

Yeah… which is why it’s rather weird and at times mildly irritating when posts sprout up performing impressive interpretive acrobatics in order to force connections to Donald Trump.

The guy’s name is closer to being a reference to Treants than it is a 2016 general election.

[tnpeter]

What would you call a person who, despite plain and simple facts, claim that while you are clearly holding two oranges in your hands, are actually holding four bananas and a pickle?

Because that’s how every attempt to debunk their out of this world lies end up.

And of course the inevitable but Obama, but Hillary, but emails and I’m not racist I voted for Obama always turn up.

[Piemanlee (Goodbye friends and not friends, it's been a fun ride)]

I mean you can say Trump has lots of flaws, but you can’t say the Democratic side doesn’t have an equal amount.

That’s what people don’t understand. Damned if you do, damned if you do. Doesn’t matter who you vote for you’ll still get a dicking one way or another.

[paulothead (AN awkward, not THE Awkward, Yeti)]

Now that’s out of the way, can we please remember there is a thread for political discussion so that folks can opt in or out of it? It’s here, in case your search function is broken.

Political Discussion Thread

To wit, 'tis the season. We’ll see if there’s sufficient interest to sustain this, but I think we’re getting a bit deeper into the topic than usual.

[SuitableTrain8 (Spilled the Paint)]

I know my fair share of people on the other side too that no matter what Obama did he was right, he had his lies and corruptions. Just like Bush did, just like Clinton did etc…

Back to what I was really trying to express is I have enough BS in the world with politics, sexuality, gender that I don’t need/want it in my video games.

it’s in there, I will live with it.

[Derch (Where's lucky?)]

wasn’t so much the figures regarding males and females. It was the way they were portrayed. I don’t recall many of the females poking fun at themselves - they were all strong, beautiful, badass. Which is fine to have but when they’re all like that, I find it harder to enjoy them because it’s samey.

They are vault hunters, the biggest badasses in the galaxy. But they are not all the same, moxxi, ellie, tannis, nothing like lilith or maya.

The males had a much wider variety of personalities and quirks but they were all made to be idiots in some way. Jakobs and Hammerlock would be the exception but they’re gay. This isn’t a homophobic comment - in fact I absolutely love how they brought this into the story. But feminism and lgbtq often go hand in hand.

How do women’s rights and LGBTQ rights go hand in hand other than the fact its the obvious right thing, equal rights for all.

I also don’t see how the men were really more varied. Again like above ellie is nothing like tannis who is nothing like moxxi who is nothing like lilith. I could see lilith and maya being a bit similar but you could say the same for hammerlock and winny.

I don’t think this was a feminist agenda - I think that’s a bit far. But when it’s so centralised on female strength, it does make it a bit…boring.

I don’t see how strong women are boring but this is a story about Sirens again, they are strong. So I don’t get it.

We didn’t see any character development throughout the story. And that if you wanted to be a hero, you had to be a siren.

Did you play the game? Lilith went through an arc of being forced to be a leader to embracing it, dealing with the loss of powers and in the end finally took her responsibilities and took action.

Typhon was the biggest hero of the story and he dealt with a lot and a huge development arc of grasping on his failure of a parent.

Wainwright was maybe the second biggest badass in the story, not a siren

Even Ava dealth with things moving her charactrer.

Tannis had a big arc

I don’t get this at all.

But in 3 she became strong, badass and even more like a leader…which just didn’t seem like the Tannis from 2.

That is character development that you just said there wasn’t

[Derch (Where's lucky?)]

Consider: there is no government. Guns are everywhere. In this universe, the solution to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with bigger guns. Corporations do basically whatever they want as long as the “market,” such as it is, continues to buy their products.

Sounds like a Bernie Sanders campaign ad, right?

Sounds libertarian, nothing like Bernie actually

[Derch (Where's lucky?)]

Hammerlock and Jacobs were gay - gonna day this again, this isn’t a homophobic remark as I absolutely love their relationship and the part it had in the story. They were at least somewhat capable I guess.

Wainwright totally mess with a fully powered troy, that was a badass move. What does being gay have to do with being badass?

Not whine about not knowing what she is through the whole game. Let her be a leader - show that fire again.

This was the story of her grasping with leadership and loss of power.

[Derch (Where's lucky?)]

I suppose I disagree with the concept overall at the moment, but I don’t see it as a big deal either way, and am willing to have my opinion changed, I just don’t really understand it.

Disagreeing/not understand non binary individuals but still respecting them is a sign of being a good person.

Disagreeing/not understand non binary individuals but attacking them because of it is a sign of being a jerk.

There is a choice being made there, and if people choose to want to call them a him or her when they know they don’t want to, that is disrespectful.

Why someone would want to be disrespectful on purpose is something I will never understand.

[kitehighland (Psn - kitehighland)]

must have missed the memo - zero has been referred to as male multiple times in this thread.

#triggered

[Derch (Where's lucky?)]

If it was about trump why did he not talk like trump or act like trump?

When they do easter eggs like sloth or juggernaut they look, talk, and have names like them.

I don’t see it.

[sammantixbb (I guess no one goes here anymore)]

Traunt seemed so much more like their names for goofs on guys named Trent than anything else. And I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean, but my first thought when he started talking was “omg, he’s such a Trent”

[AMG_75 (I punch him!)]

Brick is unequivocally the physically strongest (human) character in BL history, so far as I’m aware. His feats of strength are beyond superhuman.

“This pleases me.” - Brick

[Psychichazard (All out of kittens.)]

Yes, because Zero identifies as a male. Flak identifies as non-binary.

(Apparently Zero was written with the intention of being non-binary, but Burch forgot)

[Hattie (Sloth in the time of corona)]

(Apparently Zero was written with the intention of being non-binary, but Burch forgot)

This sentence pretty much distils the absurdity of people seeing deeply rooted political conspiracies in what writers come up with

[Giuvito (Maining Ms. Phaseswole)]

seeing deeply rooted political conspiracies in what writers come up with

AT GBX HQ

“Hah, now that we’ve effectively brainwashed the entirety of EARTH we will-.”

“Sir, we forgot to add in all the communism to the game!”

“ALL OF IT!?! OUR PLAN! NOOOOO.”

[Schnorm]

“What are you saying about Atlas being the good guys? VLADOF! I SAID VLADOF you incompetent buffoon!”

Time we get our Vladof Circle of Survival

[Giuvito (Maining Ms. Phaseswole)]

Time we get our Vladof Circle of Survival

Just people waiting in a circular bread line, which ultimately just feeds in to the line for toilet paper.

[Schnorm]

That took my mind way too close to The Human Centipede. I guess there’s a reason the Borderlands humour resonates so well with me.

To add back to the topic, though:
The only time something from the game stood out to me as deliberate political or social commentary/mocking was the adventure of Rhys-Ball.