Flak deserves some kinda love
All the pets need something a lil bit more.

They gotta be careful wirh nerfs tho. Because itd be be based off one setup.

Its insanity no one discusses amara nerfs.much n when they land. They dont do much.

Amaras spirit D can plow through maps super speed.

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Because we don’t talk about Amara. Let her be the on VH in the end game like Sal is and it’ll be just like bl2 where only one build is viable without going too far into exploits.
But seriously Amara needs some nerfs. Fl4ks pets need a buff but overall they are pretty well balanced. Zane needs his skills to be reworked. And Moze needs MS nerfed and autobear slightly nerfed.
That said there does need to be some buffs with those nerfs to somewhat make up. Amara nothing she is op as is. Fl4k might lose a little of their damage for the pet to gain more. Zanes clone can be looked into more. And Moze needs something to get away from grenade spam to live maybe an omni-sprint for rushin offensive.

Just incase people dont understand the bets.
These bets below:

Butt stallion.
Lvl cap.
Event or no Event
Grenades
Veteran Rewards
Loot gun.

If ur right = 1 badass rank


Multichoice rules.
Patch notes may contain buffs or nerfs. U can leave these blank if you wish.

If patch notes in example say.

I.e. *Amara. Buffed helping hands duration by 120% *
Flak gamma burst damage and healing increased by 50%
Moze fire in the skagden reduced by 5%
Moze increased green monster damage by 10%
Zane: no changes.

Then u should have selected for the buffs
amara buffa flakk buffs moze buffs. Zane blank

For the nerfs section
Amara blank flak blank moze nerfs and zane blank

That would yield 2 badass ranks.

For the multi choice each right descision is 1/4th a rank.

Only a betting phenom may even reach rank 7 let alone a perfect 8. Good luck ppl!

I myself don’t think ill rank high at all. The second borderlands.com breaks news these polls will close except the pizza ones.

The pizza gives no rank. Good luck minions!

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Poor California.

Y’all got California [Rick] Rolls instead of pie.

Even as far out West as Arizona, they have tons of authentic Chi Pie.

Chi Pie is best pie. So thick. So good. Even when the sauce is on its hood.

NYCza is still top notch, though.

Tbh, as much as I don’t like Amara, I don’t agree too much. TTB needs a nerf, but Amara is not that strong without it. Not saying that she becomes useless, but it’s just that one single skill that makes her worse than sal ever was.

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About ranking…

  • Decrease something may not exactly be a nerf, ie. decrease FitS damage for Moze may prevent self-killing, so not a real nerf.
  • Why wouldn’t you count in the pizza ? This is underwhelming ! We need pizzabadassranks !
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Have you ever heard of a Pizza Margharita? Tomato sauce, mozzarella and fresh basil. It’s what many people will consider the OG pizza and it’s very much italian (the red sauce, white cheese and green basil representing the colours of the italian flag). In fact, there are many different varieties of Pizza in italy and I’d say that a majority of them feature tomato sauce and/or mozzarella. That’s not something the americans started.

Like, no offense, but Pizza is an italian dish and always has been. It was brought to the US in the late 19th century, a about a century after modern pizza had been invented in italy.

I will give you that there are some differences between american and italian varieties, with american pizzas often having a thicker and fluffier crust as compared to the thinner and crispier italian varieties, but Pizza as we know it today was still invented in italy by italians and not by italian immigrants in the US.

Claiming that pizza is an american invention is like claiming cars are american because Henry Ford was the first person to produce them on mass, even though the first motorized vehicle was invented and patented by german engineer Carl Friedrich Benz.

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I prefer St. Louis style pizza.

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Pesto pizza is the fokin’ best, specially with bacon.

To be more specific about my votes:

Moze will see a damage reduction on AUTO BEAR and something will be done with MindSweeper, and if they go further than that, it’s purely a knee jerk reaction, and not actually rooted in the numbers.

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Some of the best pies in the world can be found in New Haven,New York and parts of Jersey and as well as Italy,love it as do most Americans to become the no.1 most consumed over things like burgers in America.It is like no other it is a powerhouse it is truly a Badass

I wasn’t arguing about quality, that’s subjective after all, but about invention and origin. Pies weren’t invented in the US either, btw.

I guess what hes saying is the mainstreaming style used in America. Such as American companies such as dominos and pizza hut have expanded into places like japan making it mainstream. While there are pizza places.in japan such brands are more well known and accessible.
They have tv commercials are sponsoring anime etc.

The commercialization of pizza can definitely be attributed to that part. But to say its an inventiin is too.much a stretch. Its italians first

But the thin style stretched out dough is a brooklyn style made by Italians. It allows for layers of flavor with.toppings therrs a.microcosm of bottom crust minor caramelization. The breading is thin but light from minor rizing a layer entrenched with sauce then sauce then mozzerellla which is a wonderful neutralwhich can be enhanced by their own seasonings suchnas garlic salt minor oils fats etc. It satisfies that need for certain sulfuric compounds sugars salts protein fats carbohydrates and minor antioxidants from the sauce

Deep dish pie is def a chicago thing.

Californias… Uh… Forget it.

Our modern day pizza is a wonderful bastardization from its parents land. Every country has its own take.

The way philly has reinvented the idea of what a cheese steak is. Or bistec pan/ steak bread etc


If the disparity if whats a buff and nerf comes up in patch notes itll.be a good discussion while the polls closed and everyone figures their points.

I wonder if anyone will even reach 7.

In example though while the past spiritual driver change was for balance. It was still considered a nerf.

They should have moze have a self damage resistance buff or talent already. But thats my opinion. If the community in unison asks for it. Itll happen.

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I hope they do absolutely nothing to mind sweeper. When used under “normal” circumstances it’s great but inconsistent, which makes it so enjoyable to use to me.

If they add any kind of cap to how many times it can chain it could effectively kill it, i think. It would stop IB from doing bilions of damage, sure, but it could probably also mean that IB is one of few options left to make good use of it since it now relies on hitting hard on the initial shot.

But i dunno, it’s just a guess. I don’t use sweeper much with IB to really know for sure. All i know is that i rather not have a fun com get destroyed because of one interaction.

Bets are closed! Patch notes here.

Here

Or

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Patch lookin good eh??
NOW I GOTTA NOT SELL MY SLIDING ANNOINTS BC THEY ARE RARE :open_mouth:

Patch notes Amara buffs only
:face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

Flak Buffs and Nerfs. Scorcher nerf for what?!
Broken skill fixed slight buff then? + pet dmg

Moze Buffs and Nerfs big nerfs cm scaling nerfs
Slight pet damage increase.

Zane. Nerf with opq. Cm Scaling nerf
All nerfs.

Massive damage decreases for all but Amara it seems.

:)… Psychotic smile

Ill wait for player confirmation though.

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No butt stallion, no grenade buffs, no lvl cap, no event.

Veteran rewards machine is here. So yes
Lootgun is a yes

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All that got nerf was frecking bug breaking the game though. Nothing to see there. This patch is great, all that was debugged is good, now we can use said character and weapons without feeling like we’re cheating.

rank 5. Badass pearlecsent rakk

Hell yeah, i got quite a few right.
What a nice patch to make my week!

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