Bring Ambra back

Battleborn Battleborn Competitive Multiplayer Discussion
#9

Obviously. I am not seriously asking for this. But don’t you think it’s ridiculous that we have to kill Ambra 50 times between 2 characters? (Galilea and Alani) how is that at all fun? It’s not. In fact, it’s a good way to kill this game even more.

Ambras used to show up daily at one point. Now you are lucky to face one in a match, let alone kill one. It’s gotten to the point where people are quitting before the game starts because they don’t care about the match, they just want to complete the challenge and I can hardly blame them. If I ever see an Ambra, I am going to go after non stop; which yes, it does suck for my teammates. But honestly, winning doesn’t even matter to me anymore. I just want to complete these challenges because it’s literally, the only thing to do in Battleborn. But at the rate things are, I may just have to put the game down. Unless they have some alternative ways I can unlock someone’s lore.

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#10

I played with an Ambra before and she was really good. I think everyone is just preferring Alani so Ambra is left out

#11

Lol, i know this thread is a joke but i wouldn’t mind ambra getting a little of her fire back. Like longer radiance drain or faster sunspot health regain or something. But GBX is constantly patching things so i have hope.

#12

It isn’t a question of IF they will do something about it but HOW and WHEN. The devs have already stated that they know about the problems concerning Ambra and the lore challenges associated with her.

Ambra is my favorite character, and I have played a lot of matches with her. However, since Alani was released and Ambra nerfed, there is simply no reason to play with her unless you’re okay with playing a weaker character. A good Alani will always out damage and out heal a good Ambra. Don’t let Ambra’s high heal numbers fool you—at least a third of that healing is going towards minions (which is ridiculous since her healing would never be able to sustain them). The fact that the sunspots lose health when healing them makes things worse.

I just hope Ambra’s buff will come in the next update. Until then, I will continue to kick it as Ambra in PvE because I do enjoy playing as her. The only mission that is difficult for her is the Heliophage. Keeping sunspots alive during Rendain’s boss fight is a nightmare.

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#13

Honestly I think she just needs about a 10-15% buff on Sunspot’s base healing and she’d be great again.

Also now that her Ult doesn’t slow anymore, it could activate a bit faster, maybe 2 seconds off the drop delay. It’s still good wave clear and area denial, but it will never hit a half competant player.

Right now her support game is lacking compared to the other supports. She doesn’t do high damage, which is fine because she shouldn’t, but so it then comes to the point of asking, “why not play someone else?”

Alani beats her in every category: healing, damage, wave clear, CC, self sustain. That’s part of the reason Alani needs to be looked at, so that we can see more diversity in the support role, because there is still at least one Alani in every game, if not two. And it’s not because she’s new, it’s because she’s over powered.

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#14

Yeah, it seems like Alani is the versatile one instead of Ambra.

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#15

I’ve thought about this too.

Right now, there are two challenges that I think, need to be re-thought. The first is the one you mentioned… 25 kills, is an insane amount depending on the character that you have to hunt. Oscar Mike is all over the place, so for Whisky Foxtrot, it’s much, much of an issue.

Additionally, for the challenges that character A has to play on the same team as character B, that challenge is way to easy to complete , because it can be entirely staged between two friends on the same team.

My thought would be to “reverse” the quotas. Alani needs to kill Ambra 5 times, and Isac needs to play with Kleese 25 times.

Maybe I’m over-simplifying the answer, but I feel like it’s a good start.

#16

Yep:

#17

@Gulfwulf, that’s a good link. The “kill or assist killing” would be huge.

Thanks for sharing.

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#18

Even better would be “win a match against”.

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#19

Even even better would be, “play a match against” :stuck_out_tongue:

Na I think allowing assists will be more than enough. We had a game a few nights ago where we purposefully assisted the Alani getting her Ambra kills. 7 or 8 kills left to do, we got it for her. I think the player was quite happy !
And my friend who essentially plays Alani is getting, slowly but quite steady, his kills too.
Changing the challenge to include assist will just make the number of Masters of Alani skyrocket :wink:

#20

Winning a match against would promote more teamwork. People could focus on the game and not killing the Ambra or Oscar Mike.

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#21

[quote=“zenrage, post:13, topic:1509813, full:true”]
Honestly I think she just needs about a 10-15% buff on Sunspot’s base healing and she’d be great again.

Also now that her Ult doesn’t slow anymore, it could activate a bit faster, maybe 2 seconds off the drop delay. It’s still good wave clear and area denial, but it will never hit a half competant player.

Right now her support game is lacking compared to the other supports. She doesn’t do high damage, which is fine because she shouldn’t, but so it then comes to the point of asking, “why not play someone else?”[/quote]
Personally, I think Sunspots should be more powerful while both healing an ally and hitting an enemy (as in, they do more damage or healing on both for free rather than making it tick down faster). And there’s Ambra’s niche, supporting CQC. Fits perfectly with the Jennerit’s theme too!

The range reduction on her staff’s main attack was pretty unjustified too.

#22

THAT’S IT. WIN A MATCH AGAINST. THAT WOULD SOLVE SO MANY PROBLEMS!!! Although we’d still have to address the lack of Ambra usage, but by the gods this would make life so much easier and better yet, not harm the game.

#23

Ambra was actually in a GREAT place, before this recent nerf; and it has nothing to do with the slow on her ult. They nerfed her heat into the ground. Previously, her heat did close to 200 dmg per hit and emptied in a few swings. This was HUGE for her. She has almost no sustained damage, but the heat allowed her to do awesome, but reasonable burst damage. Now, after the ninja nerf, it does about half the damage, yet you can get twice as many swings in. This completely ruined her damage. She now does about 100 damage per swing, which would be the lowest DPS in the game besides her primary attack lol. Pound for pound she can not do enough damage to survive.

All they need to do is bring her heat back to where it was. She was in a great place. I’m not sure what they were thinking.

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#24

Yes, Scorching Strike is pretty bad right now. If they ever touch the Halberd, Ambra really will be in a seriously unhappy place. :frowning:

#25

I concur. I’ve nearly stopped playing the game in part due to the range reduction done to her staff. If one thing is clear to me, it’s that Gearbox hasn’t been able to properly balance this game, or the characters in general for that matter. With 0 emphasis on teammakeup during character selection new or inexperienced players have a high probability of going with a “bad choice”, and the consequences are usually very unforgiving. I don’t even play league of legends, but a friend mentioned to me how their charavter selection system works. I won’t explain here because a simple Google search will do the trick if interested. But I’m sure many people know what I’m referring to. Something of that nature truly needs to be implemented. I also laughed out loud when I saw that some of the lore challenges require you to kill specific players up to 25 friggin times when you are ALWAYS OBLIVIOUS as to who your opponents will choose! xD

#26

I’ve played a lot of Ambra, and I specifically don’t play her much in Versus just to stick it to Alani players. That and Ambra’s horrid primary range. Alani players will just have to live with no lore challenge and massive damage and heals, because, support character.

#27

Healing minions is not a bad thing. Her ability to heal minions along with her great AoE is what makes her one of the best pushers in the game. Her healing is enough to keep your team mates topped off if you are smart about storing your sunspots. She is sort of a hybrid healer. She heals a pretty decent amount, but she is also able to mitigate damage by keeping the minion wave back and forcing the enemy to pull back behind choke points.

And besides, I usually still end up putting out 50-60k in team healing (70-100 total). That’s about on par with alanis team healing. Alani can mayve put out a bit more damage while healing, but ambra still hurts. Alani is getting nerfed anyways so whatever

#28

Normally only play Story mode but gave incursion a try today and there was an Ambra lesson.
Ambra walked Montana with the minions each time, they totally dominated.