VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#3
Best way to do that is file a bug report.
I am wondering if this is a side effect of the changes made to add the new legendaries into the game, or just a simple oversight? There are so many possible loot combinations…
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According to my notes, my main Roland lost a Fearsome Bessie, a Long Bessie, and a Genocide Avenger in the transfer. Makes sense if they didn’t have the “right” accessories to make it through. I wouldn’t be able to tell a Heavy accessory from a hole in the ground, though… What prefix does a Bessie with it have?
Scootalewis
(King of the Loot Midgets)
#5
The prefox is variable depending on other stats, but the Heavy accessory is pretty visible as a chunky bar under the barrel, attached in two places, as opposed to the Long accessory which is longer and tends to glow, as well as being attached all the way along.
EDIT: Just watched over a video of a Bessie drop in the remaster, it also had Heavy accessory. More evidence.
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Geomason
( - He who dares wins!)
#6
So that means that Bessie bacame even more rare then before…
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mlociks
(Matīss Lociks)
#7
Awesome, that means higher chance to get a good Bessie then with it having fixed accessory now. Deathly acc for Avenger is great too, but that compromises elemental variations of gun.
I guess it’ll get fixed, so I’m wondering if it’s worth investing time for farming armory.
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Swan
(🦢)
#8
not sure if it means the spawn rate changes, i can see how it would but i’ve found more bessies than anything else since enhanced
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Geomason
( - He who dares wins!)
#9
I hope not, I want them coming with a Heavy acc all the time, but on the other hand it needs to be fixed…
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mlociks
(Matīss Lociks)
#10
According to http://blmodding.wikidot.com/gear-calculator , Bessie have it’s own seperated parts table, which can be taken as confirmation that its drop rate is not affected.
p.s. I speculate that the tables are modified by removing the other accessories, so that’s why the guns disappeared when transfering user data (modded guns with parts not matching with parts tables gets removed by default). Avenger have it’s own parts table too that probably got tweaked.
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Kurtdawg13
(Loot Whore)
#11
Thank you for this @Swan Good job! 
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I can confirm that elemental avengers are for some reason, not possible in the enhanced version, based on tests I did with the Willowtree save editor. However, for me it was only the “intense” accessory that worked on it. Deathly variants seem to disappear upon loading the game, much like elemental variants.
Hopefully some mods are created to fix this issue, considering the enhanced version has been out for about a year and Gearbox still hasn’t fixed it.
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Punishing Avengers are possible. I found one. Maybe you did something wrong in the willow tree
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Swan
(🦢)
#15
What is this referring to?
Of course ‘punishing’ prefix avengers are possible. Any avenger combination as long has it has the ‘Deathly’ Acc can spawn.
MeltintheSun
(kills Craw with Knoxx's Gold)
#16
The above post by @thingswelostinth said only the intense accessory is possible, hence the photo of a deathly acc. Not sure where the confusion lies there, since it seems you’ve been right from the beginning.
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Apologies for the delayed response, but no I meant the Intense accessory, which increases critical hit damage by 50% and somewhat increases accuracy. Deathly just increases base damage by 20% and accuracy regen rate.
@Mark_Levinson that may be the case that I did something wrong, for sure. I’m not sure why it didn’t work for me with the deathly accessory. I do know I tried it with both of those accessories and every element, all with body 5, barrel 5, mag 3, and stock 5 as well. Not sure why I had different results.
Either way I think we can agree that the Avenger no longer being elemental is a shame, especially considering the increased tech that it’s special sight provides.
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I’m trying to hunt for an elemental Avenger in both remastered threads. So far went through 900 posts and no elemental avenger. Gotta check the fail thread, I think there’s a higher chance of finding one there lol. If deathly and intense accessories spawn then elemental ones should as well. I refuse to believe they can’t lol
Geomason
( - He who dares wins!)
#19
no elemental avengers in remaster for sure, it is locked to deathly acc. only
Really? Did anyone mine the game files to find this? Why would the devs go through the hassle and restrict Avenger accessories? Mystery intensifies
So update, it actually was the deathly accessory that spawned correctly, while Intense did not. I confused it for the intense version due to the 50% crit bonus that the Avenger already had, forgetting that the intense version would have 100% crit bonus. My apologies for the mixup on my part.
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Even with Intense accessory the gun is still pretty jank to an Intense Raven or a Destroyer with the pounder mag
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