I’ll believe it when I see it, as I’ve heard it before I’ll remain skeptical until then.
What are the proposed changes for Thorn, if any have been made public yet that is?
Be as that may.
However, what I don’t agree with - in particular coming from such a long time and respected member - is using title/o p terms such as “stupid” “piece of sh*t” when expressing a deviating opinion concerning coming game char adjustments.
I was expecting better.
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She is still losing a lot of shield strength, which might balance out the health buff. And the regen is on the same level as Antihero…
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Wouldn’t poison and bleed be the same thing they’re both dot… Knockback is also pretty subpar anyway
Poison is handled differently in the mechanics
Knockback is by far the superior version of stun in many instances
You control where your enemy ends up and you have the potential to stun two or more at once
Well at least until the 13th
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Fair point edited title and post to be a little less aggressive. I’ve just been very salty about these changes and whatnot
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Handled differently but still a dot none the less. Knockback knockup and blind are subpar in comparison to what she has, but idk maybe the Galilea buff won’t do much still don’t agree with her getting buffed with her current state
A busted 1500 sheild nerfed down to 1000.
300 hp to compensate
She’ll be fine
I wasn’t arguing that her amount of available CCs wasn’t ridiculous
I was arguing specifics (6/10 60%)
Cause I’m a smartass 
And as it is right now
Knockback can be amazing
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eh nothing wrong with being a smartass, outside of forums I am one of the most blatantly sarcastic people in town
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Nope, just that their helices are getting changed but they didn’t have time for it on this patch
If we’re talking specifics, it was previously 1600
Yes, thank you for proving my point about her territorial aspect. Did you know that 1 point of damage to her health completely halves her damage into the second lowest melee damage?
You forgot Weaken
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Her damage isn’t the problem the ccs are. Her damage isn’t solid but those ccs certainly are
I yet again point you to her territorial aspect.
Territorial doesn’t translate to having that many ccs at your disposal. Toby is territorial but he doesn’t have 6 ccs at once. Kleese is territorial and he doesn’t have 6 ccs either. No character needs that many ccs period and nobody plays her like a territorial defender anyway. Everyone plays her as a cc chaining assassin
That is what gives her a terrtorial aspect. Not every territorial character will be the same. Why are you so fixated on her defender aspect anyways? She does defend. She goes out, takes the enemy territory and then defends it. She fits the defender category. Tbh, Boldur does what she can but better as long as the Boldur knows what he’s doing. Hell, Kleese is listed as a support but does the same thing as Gali and can burst someone down much quicker than Gali.
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She does not fit the defender thing at all, defenders don’t freakin go right into an enemy, kill them in 3 seconds while they are stunned and take increased DAMAGE, have whole lotta cc on them, and wait for desecrate to be off cooldown to kill someone else by ATTACKING THEM IN THE MOST OFFENSIVE WAY POSSIBLE
a defender establishes a territory and any enemy trying to get passed will have a hard time, kleese and Montana for example
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Hard time? Kleese? Kleese sets out with his team, takes enemy territory and then just sits there until someone goes through so he can murder them. Territorial characters are suppose to punish someone in the most brutal way possible for stepping into their territory. Gali does that. She DEFENDS her territory that she took from the enemy team. She’s more of a hybrid if anything but nonetheless, she still defends. Characters aren’t entirely summarized on what they can do based entirely on their traits listed on the command menu.
Taking territory is not something a “defender” does. She goes out and cc chains you to death, which is not a territorial or defender aspect
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