nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#61
i miss the time that we were so happy hitting the 
damage numbers, lol.
derwitte
(GT: dafatman911)
#62
No update since summer, huh? The newly upped Psycho Stabber w/ 300>90 or maybe even URAD should take Butt Plugs place, I guess.
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I have a crazy idea
it should be possible to use a fire hunter seeker and megavore to detonate unleash the dragon dot with the strange weapon above
I remember the experiments of Sammantixbb with Moze detonating dot with grenade crits and this anoint, so that should be possible.
I dont have the fire hunter seeker yet
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derwitte
(GT: dafatman911)
#64
Hmm, that sounds interesting and in fact like something that @sammantixbb would be into. 
I never played with that anoint as it seems to take too much experimentation for my liking.
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tysonyar
(Like a dumpster wrapped in sadness)
#65
@olivier_shady I haven’t played around too much with the Unleash the Dragon or the Psycho Stabber. Is there some interaction there that allows you to proc melee damage with your grenade? I thought Fish Slap was the only one that did that?
You can use unleash the dragon with fish slap / stabber to generate a powerful fire dot
The dot can be detonated by any fire crit (no need to be melee or gun for the matter) as long as you hold a weapon with the nova on crit anoint
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tysonyar
(Like a dumpster wrapped in sadness)
#67
I gotcha. So you basically would be using the Hunter Seeker for the sole reason of leveraging the UTD DOT, kind of like crit-swapping a little bit. I have not messed around with the anointment-swapping mechanics either, but I understand basically how they work.
I didn’t know if you were somehow trying to leverage the melee damage and I was trying to figure out how the Hunter-Seeker would do that.
yes. and it s a shame messy break up does not come in fire , because megavore works on the drone as well and it detonates shock or corr dot which is kind of hilarious.
That what I like with the detonate dot anoint is it s a global thing you can make work whenever you want as long as the crit and element are here
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sammantixbb
(I guess no one goes here anymore)
#69
Yeah. Pretty much. What I did before they turn Skag Den into a delete button was use Moze’s interactions with dots (RIP because new tree will ez mode that) to turn the Storm into a shield stripping Fire DoT machine. I’d then use a Hellfire with the DoT Detonator anointment to rapid fire hit the crit with fire damage. Was able to proc a 2M hit before I quit.
So UTD Stabby DoT Boom sounds fun af.
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I am addicted to the combo psycho stabber / unleash the dragon
This time I tried a frozen snowshoe to go with it and dominance capstone for extra aggro and dot
a bit of slaughter shaft
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boombumr
(Here comes the BOOOOM)
#71
When Trapper comes out, you can just use the pet crits to proc the nova. Could be fun.
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Hell yeah, nice! I’m not positive, but I think that the terror anointment on grenades that grant increase damage and fire rate works on melee. So, I think an It’s Piss (More damage) or Hunter seeker (Cooldown rate for Action skill) with that anointment might work better for your build. Also, I think the stinger, brawler ward, or fire old god would all serve you better then the snoeshoe.
I’m also not sure what the best class mod is. R4kk P4k + hunter seeker would make your action skill charge much faster. It can also have +3 in pack tatics, which is a flat 7% damage increase per level, 21% total. Getting a bounty hunter with +5 in frenzy also grants a massive +40% damage, but it only works a lot better with the SMG pet. Not sure what’s best, just thought I should bring up some options.
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Thanks for your interesting comments!
I can confirm the terror inc damage anoint works on melee, I already tested it. 
I agree with the it s piss with terror inc dmg idea I ve been looking for one for quite a while but no luck 
In this version of build I am not using megavore so hunter seeker is not useful here
For the shields I tested fire old god and brawler ward, snowshoe is my favourite: the damage multiplication on frozen enemies is huge in addition of stopping movement of all close enemies and you control when you want to use the effect as you only require it for tougher enemies.Brawler is pretty good too but the depleted requirement is a bit annoying. Old god is ok but far below brawler and snowshoe in term of damage.
Stinger would be the best of course but it is so op that it would completely overshadow stabber and el dragon combo 
So I did not select it to keep the unseen pyromaniac spirit of the build.
Class mod is a great question, I am reaching the same conclusion as the original author a cosmic stalker with big game and stalker would probably be the best, right now I switched to a better thrillbot com with big game and melee perk. Yours ideas are pretty good too, I also considered the smg Jabber but then opted for the elemental damage bonus of fire spiderant boosted by barbaric yawp to be in my pyromaniac theme.
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Maybe it’s best to go all the way to megavore just for the hunter seeker? You would extra damage and survivability of pack tactics, but would gain a much faster recharge ratefrom megavore, along with +3 points in Big game and interplanetary stalker.
Also, that makes sense regarding the SnowShoe. The Frozen Heart might be better though, not sure.
Also, yeah the it’s piss is a nightmare to farm, and the stinger is wayyyy too good lol
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derwitte
(GT: dafatman911)
#75
Hunter Seeker can crit w/o Megavore as can Hex by the way.
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As the build focus on melee and melee dot, I don’t know if it is really worth to go as far as megavore, I d have to spend points on a number of skills that are not really useful for this build. Big game is useful but I get it via com ( cosmic or thrillbot). Cooldown is not really a problem imo as I use not my circus and can still attack for a while.
Initially I did a megavore version for dot detonation but it is a bit unreliable with hunter seeker, but I d give it another go once I got the hang of this.
Snowshoe is better than frozen heart because of the redcard (empty shield with slide attack) which is perfect for fade away tactic.
here my last setup (a bit different than the video before)
Class mod is not perfect but currently the best I have, still looking for cosmic stalker with 3 big game 3 stalker and melee perk
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derwitte
(GT: dafatman911)
#77
That is true. There is not much you would get from doing down this far. Esp., since you already have a boost to Big Game from your com.
Still, I think a Hunter-Seeker with Headcount (which you also have) would decrease your AS downtime quite a bit. There are some moments where you kind of “hide” or try to crit with the Stabber to decrease the cooldown. This could be done faster with the Hunter-Seeker and increase the smoothness of the flow, I think.
Try to find one with OGT anoint and your good to go. If you don’t like it, try to find a It’s piss with OGT. This will give you a nice and reliable bonus to your melee dmg.
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I thought that hunter seeker only crit with megavore but if it is not the case then it will certainly ease things just to equip one
derwitte
(GT: dafatman911)
#79
No. it can naturally crit because the dmg from it is gun dmg. A hex can also naturally crit. So you have some tools at your disposal.
A Hunter Seeker is really a great utility tool for Fl4k and has quite some dmg to it since the latest buff to it. Unless your going Punchbot (Face-puncher + St4ckbot stack abuse which the HS grenade resets) you can recklessly make use of it.
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derwitte
(GT: dafatman911)
#80
And since I just saw that: Yeah, a Cosmic Stalker will increase your melee dmg also since it increases all hunt skills and IPS v1 dmg portion. That is for mobbing of course.
If you want to got bossing, a Bounty Hunter - also with the Hunter-Seeker - can trigger all of your hunt skills so you start off the fight stronger than with a Stalker which benefits you might not get unless there are adds to kill around.
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