[Build] Amara the Thorncaster v3

I decided to start a new thread for this build, as it has changed and evolved a great deal from the original post of the first thread.
I have broken away from red tree quite a bit, eschewing capstone of red for a few points into infusion to get roughly the same effect.
Pulling points out of capstone and lifeleech allows you to get capstone blue tree, and a great deal more damage.
There are no points in green tree, as i found the passive survivability eclipsed by the power of Avatar, and the active survivability it brings to the table.

The big changes to the build are as follows:
No passive damage reduction after skill usage (I found this was too sporadic anyway to depend on as it would not refresh with skill usage)
No damage bonus from personal space (its made up for in blue tree)
Less lifeleech. (from 20% to 8% or a 12% loss)
Less shock damage (from 18% BONUS to 16% CONVERTED)
Less max health (about 1k health on my build)
No “mindfulness” (slightly more time before shield recharges and no movespeed buff)

The Upside:
Links do waaaaaaay more damage (from 67.% or so to 112.5% pre bonus from laid bare)
Phasegrasp almost always up (5 second cooldown to refresh avatar, and avatar lets you grasp twice per cooldown, so grasping every 8-13 seconds roughly)
Way more gun damage. (20% passive + 20% MORE for 8 seconds after skill use)
Critical Hit damage bonus of 27% after a grasp for 8 seconds.

In short, more active, but less passive survability while having more damage. This is a slightly more “glass cannon” build, but with phasegrasp it does not feel like much of a glass anything.

That being said lets post the pics of trees.
No class mod on for ease of point placement.


Some notes on terror/gear.
I’m running a transformer with +terror every 5 over 18 seconds.
A Roisen’s Thorn with +cryo while terrified.
A Stormfront with +damage/fire rate while terrified.

This allows my Roisen’s Thorn to be 4 elements permanently, while doing way more damage, and firing way faster.
Is it required for the build? No.
Do I HIGHLY recommend it? Yes.

Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Please feel free to drop a coment or like. Last time I posted a build the community was a great resource for helping to fine tune it. I’d love to see the same this time.

P.s. Special shoutout and thank you to StalwartStu for all the theorycrafting help/time spent.

Slaughterstar M2 Video links:
Round 1: https://youtu.be/Qv_fqYkAJnw
Round 2: https://youtu.be/i9mJnyL20lI
Round 3: https://youtu.be/EBQRoFqzNJM
Round 4: https://youtu.be/AYEBci5T9WI
Round 5: https://youtu.be/dw9XOJEZNw0

Sorry for having to break it into 5 parts…

Mayhem 3 videos as asked for:
Round 1: https://youtu.be/DL_-hgNsINQ
Round 2: https://youtu.be/VMGnUEPZLtg
Round 3: https://youtu.be/LGpgkH2wekw
Round 4: https://youtu.be/ULE0GQD_zMM
Round 5: https://youtu.be/7W-TliN_A0E



Roisins thorn never did it for me, but I will give it another go with your build. :smiley:

I’ve got a few extra Roisen’s Thorns stashed away if you need/want to borrow one to try it out with.

I quite like to farm so if one doesn’t drop after a few hours tonight , I’ll get back to you. :+1:

Try a slaughter shaft or two… i seem to find one or two of them after a 5 round. That however is about the only place I find 'em dropping.

A video will be great if you can make :grinning:

Hmmmmm… video of me doing what?

lol playing with the build maybe?

Everyone does Slaughter Shaft. Since your primary gun is a little unorthodox, maybe do a Slaughterstar run. Rounds 4-5 mix in bots with fleshies and all sorts of elemental resistances come into play, so it’d be a good demonstration of what the Rosien’s Thorns can do.

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Slaughter Star is a good idea.
I’ll see if I can get a decent group up tonight to do it with.
I’m not about to try and solo M3, there are just tooooooo many targets at once to really be able to reasonably handle that.
However. That area is a good showcase for Roisen’s.

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I think solo would be a better demonstration personally, that way we can really see what’s going on and what you’re doing as opposed to the clutter of teammates damaging and killing enemies. With TTB and SoM you have crowd control and area damage. I’d like to see what Rosien’s Thorns can do, I’ve never built around or used it in dense mobbing situations.

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Did a M2 SlaughterStar. Working on uploading atm.
M3 is rough solo… m2 was alright up until bosses.
Game over.

I enjoy Slaughterstar more than Shaft, even if it takes a bit longer despite being easier. Those bosses are rubbish though.

Agreed. Those bosses are absolute rubbish.

I feel the video did a decent job at showing what the build/weapon can do.
The modifiers admittidly were pretty in my favor, but I did show them at the beginning of the video.
Avatar + TTB and SoM is silly
Roisen’s Thorns makes it so you never have to element swap based on healthbar color…
I think I show it decently well…
Maybe I’ll TRY to do a m3 video at somepoint soon solo, but I just don’t have it in me atm.

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So Youtube is killing me… I spend 2 hours uploading only to be told its too big… at the moment i’m converting the file, going to edit into sections, then upload.

I’ll update when i can.

Video up

I see the Respec bug, Purposely stacking between fights, and your only on M2.

That’s not really going to demonstrate the strengths of your build or the Roisen’s Thorns.

no respec bug.
“stacking between fights” was to keep terror up.
and yeah. m2. as i said it would be…
i’ll do m3 at some point in the future.

Mayhem 3 added

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