#42

Wouldn’t the Jakobs add a bit more damage then? Reload speed would suffer, but like you said, hoping for 1 shot only. Might even be worth it to have 2 ready to go with a quick weapon swap.

Maybe Lady Fist main, fire quad off hand and another fire quad ready to swap to the off hand. Both with a single shot left in the mag?

I HAVE to imagine that would be enough…just have to be quick and have enough accuracy to pull it off.

#43

re-read me: I said the TORGUE one has slightly higher damage :wink:

#44

Oh…see I was just assuming you’re comparing to a matching manufacturer grip. Assuming is dangerous…

I thought Jakobs grips added the most damage on other brands weapons and Torgue second most.

Still learning stuff after way too many hours playing this game, lol.

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#45

In that case try joltzdude139- I watched a couple of his vids yesterday where he used Sal to take down Pete and then Hyperious with minimal gear and in less than 90 seconds each…

#46

Consider me a convert. I found an all-Jakobs OP4 Rustler’s Quad today. I’m OP4. I have a Grog. Guess how I’m killing everything.

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#47

Using the Peak Tweak build above (with my own little change) and this shotgun, I blasted my way through 2 Scorches, 2 Black Queens, 4 Assassins and countless skags and loaders to unlock OP5.

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This shotgun was a gift from Magic Jack up on his Tower. Hyperion stock would be lovely but god DAMN this works nicely. I even calculated the damage, and it’s actually just as strong as a ROM but with a wider margin for error. Still doesn’t reload fast enough for me though ;_;

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#48

That’s a nice gun indeed :smile:
Although you can say it has a wider margin for errors, it also means that it’s much less efficient at longer ranges too. It’s a tradeoff.

#49

Yeah, I did notice that the turrets on the walls were tricky to get - that’s actually what killed me my first try as Deputy. I managed to jump and shoot my way past them, though.

I mentioned a slight change to the peak tweak build, too: I decided to grab Ain’t Got Time To Bleed instead of getting higher Max HP due to A: health gate and B: more powerful regen. Not GOOD regen, but more powerful. Other than that, though, it’s a fun build. I’m planning on trying to brute my way through OP5 with this gear, too. I currently use a high-capacity antagonist (though only lv72) and an auspicious raider com (+6 MS, +5 Incite), should i try and farm for a better COM or stick with the raider?

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#50

Right now, the COm you are using seems to be doing the job fine, I wouldn’t bother.

What I would try to get is a better shield. Try an evo or Adaptive instead. The Antagonist is great if you don’t have a reliable way to slag… but you do :stuck_out_tongue:

Though if you have a Grog nozzle, Max HP is much better than AGTTB, because you will get full health from any shot you take anyway, even with increased health…so the health gate is not a factor, and the regen isn’t either. The only difference can be in getting killed in 2 shots vs 3 with more HP.

#51

Yeah, that makes sense. I just figured a Chaotic Good or Evil com might be better. And you have a good point regarding HP, but I don’t think it matters TOO much anyway.

Also, I know EXACTLY how I’m gonna farm a shotgun for OP6+…SNOWMAN!

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#52

Evil is the only prefix that matters, as it’s the only one that affects your off-hand. Chaotic will make your grog nozzle shoot faster… so it’s not bad.

#53

Just got another ROM with Gaige yesterday and I still have the mission open with Krieg. I also am about to do an OP8 run through with Axton and Maya after resetting their BAR’s so add another 2 chances to get one… :sunglasses:

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#54

I recently realized that my Salvador did the pirate DLC at 72 since I didn’t expect myself to do OP levels.

Goodbye, orphan maker.

#55

You can always reset your playthrough, trade for it or complete the quest with another character.

Alternatively, a coach gun, bushwack, Scattergun, Striker, Twister, longrider or Quad can do just fine.

The Triquetra or Hydra work well too.

As far as pure damage goes, a Doc’s Quad or Twister are the most powerful guns you can have, but they don’t have the accuracy of a ROM (which gets 95% of their power but is more efficient at medium range)

Just look at Ganza’s bar run with a blue scattergun… That’s OP8, and he doesn’t look like he needs more. :stuck_out_tongue:

#56

Yeah, but I do feel like I’m losing a good chunk of damage on bosses, especially smallar ones, due to being bad and not hitting my pellets. I think the ROM might help, but then again it might also be worse due to needing even MORE precise shot placement.

Semi-related, I managed to get hold of the same gun i use but w/hyperion stock to try out for a while, and the acc. recovery is SO much better. Holy Grail indeed.

#57

A ROM would help.

A bad shot is a bad shot. On a ROM, you just miss, on a Quad, you will still hurt a little thanks to the spread. But the big difference is when you get a good hit: with a ROM it’s a kill, with a Quad, you will hurt a lot… But not necessarily kill, that just depends on the distance. A good hit with ROM at medium range is no different than one at short range, while one with a Quad will feel like a miss because the spread will transform your good shot into a bad one, and there’s not much you can do about it.

In short, a Quad allows you to be bad, while a ROM allows you to be good, if that makes sense. :wink:

Quads are not bad in and of themselves. But they require a bit of help in the accuracy department. IMO the best Quads are Huntin’ and Doc’s, since they both improve accuracy. Huntin’ more so, but Doc’s packs a much meaner punch due to it’s crit bonus… No clue if the extra damage would be necessary though.

#58

Yeah, that does make sense. Blegh. Gonna have to find someone who’ll give me an orphan maker, then.

#59

Just to be clear though: RUSTLER’S Orphan maker… Or stick with your Quad.

Without that prefix, the OM is mediocre…at best.

And it needs a mag size of 3 (so Jakobs or Bandit grip) or else it won’t work at all.

#60

I know, I know! I just said orphan maker as a shorthand! Believe me, I wouldn’t have even considered starting to play deputy unless I knew what I was talking about :stuck_out_tongue:

Jakobs grip, hyperion stock.

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#61

Hey man, so I’ve got myself a ROM, but the mag size is 2. How do I sort this out?