[Build] Jack - Level 70 with Eclipse/Eos Video

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Jack the Doppelganger
#8

Nah, Delegation isn’t necessary for this build.

With the amount of health and shield regen you get when the Digi-Jacks die, it offsets the need to have 25% of your damage go to them.

Also, since the Digi-Jacks tend to take much of the enemies’ aggro, if you’re using it as a way to kill them off faster, it’s unnecessary from that regard as well (in my opinion and with the testing I did at least).

Granted, I have only truly tested this skill against Eclipse and EOS. I used to have it in my build, but I decided to swap it out and honestly I didn’t notice any change in my suitability or how fast the Digi-Jacks die. With 1/5 Optimism the Digi-Jacks come back with less and less health, and start popping dead in one tick of their damage anyways (or less if they actually take damage from enemies).

#9

I personally love the skill delegation, considering I only use the best for forward skill in the Hero of History tree. So it greatly helps with my build to keep me up and on the move while killing off some digi jacks in the process for some added buffs.

#10

Hmm I see what your saying, you want them to be a distraction so the enemies ignore you and with optimism they die fast anyways. I will have to try it out. Just need some better weapons, I can survive against Eclipse for a while but it just takes forever to take him down.

#11

For weapons you can always farm the denial guy in Overlook, super quick run and he always drops 2 glitched weapons plus his red chest. Even if you don’t find anything you like in a few runs you can always grind them for something else. Just a super easy quick way to stock up on some decent weapons. I finally got my hands on the new shotgun the Flayer and holy crap it is soooooo good. Just wrecks this boss

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#12

I also don’t use optimism at all but also only lvl 63 so most likely I will fill it up in the end

#13

Yeah thanks, well I get all 4 of the chests there plus I kill Teh Earworm and Denial Thresher for some exp and loot :slight_smile: I’ve got the Ts4r and using the cyro switch thing with the “sponsored by” skill :slight_smile:

#14

only 1 guarantied glitched weapon right?

#15

When I posted this I killed him about 12 times and got 2 every single time so I thought it was, come this morning its been only one. Guess I was just lucky?

#16

Nah i believe you. they might have changed it during the actual loot week. Funnily i get only one glitched gun from Eos now every time, instead of 2-4, he used to drop.

#17

Yeah that was a good time, killed Zaperdon 6 times yesterday real quick before bed trying to finish off all heads/skins from her. Only managed one legendary drop (considering both her powersuit and herself each have a drop rate for legendary gear) technically I tried for it 12 times for a skin I already have… What I’m trying to say is, for a one time encounter main plot line boss with a big loot pool should have a better drop rate.

#18

That being said I feel iwajira needs one the most, is unreal how many times I’ve killed him throughout all play throughs for only one ever Thingy. Also was wondering if the Hail? The red colored text Moxxie weapon he drops, if that counts as his rare drop?? If it does I’m going to go sit in a corner for awhile and think my life over haha

#19

I farmed Iwajara loads of times lately, I’ve only ever got the hail from him, never see the Thingy or any other legendary from him. Maybe they nerfed his Thingy drop rate because people were just farming him quickly and grinding them :frowning:

#20

Nah, I’ve killed him like 100 times, he very rarely drops the Thingy, always has, Its just much more rare to see it than the Hail.

#21

I don’t understand why they would nerf his drop rates with the grinder being such a big part in this game. He could and should be the best loot source in the game for grinding weapons considering you can only get so many out of it (also only way to loonshine bonus your gun) but I do love the fact he levels with you as you play through uvhm which is a nice exp source is all lol.

#22

He is ok-ish on xp I suppose, like 12,000xp a kill, http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_Hunter doing this quest though and instead of capturing the guardians just kill them over and over as they are instant re-spawns is the best Xp in the game, you get like 1500xp a kill from 1-50, 1200xp a kill from 50-60, and like 400-500xp a kill or something from 60-70, still though as they are instant re-spawns the xp is super insane, that’s how i leveled all my characters up. From 1-50 takes like 55 minutes, and another 2 hours to hit level 70 tops. I cheated a little though and laser build Nisha’d them, stood as close as i could where they re-spawn (so i would pick up the ammo for my gun as they died), and taped the controller fire button down and just walked away for 30 minutes at a time while my character leveled herself and 3 other players in the game lol.

#23

I think his drops have become less frequent due to the fact that all the bosses and side bosses respawn now. So legendaries are a bit easier to come by. Still though I wish his drop rates were a bit higher.

#24

Well yeah its awesome they respawn now but the fact remains he is still the quickest and easiest to farm considering it takes 5 seconds to get to him lol. Also that guardian mission is a joke sorry, one its only unlocked once you complete your playthrough so its pointless if you need it to level for the final fights. Also just not appealing to me to sit there holding rt killing an enemy faster then I can blink lol

#25

Your build looks solid, but I’d wager Lean on Me would be better replaced by Integrity. I watched your awesome quick EoS kill but you are hardly ever full health. Most of the time you are really low. I’m betting Lean on Me is giving you very minimal benefit as opposed to Integrity would further shave time once EoS is below 40%. Overall Lean on Me is a very poor skill. Otherwise nice build!

#26

Thanks for the tutorial retrodenizen . It really helped me take down Eclipse and Eos for the first time.

#27

Sorry about posting to an old thread, but this is a jewel.

I think there is something mighty screwy about either Iwajira’s drop rate or drop mechanics. Like everybody else in the game, I farmed the hell out of Iwa early on for the rich assortment of purps and the 1 in 7 thingy drop. After he came back from vacation, I went months and months with no Thingy drops. Literally none. So either thingys weren’t dropping or were getting stuck in the ceiling. Then last week, I got three on consecutive kills. Then nothing for a week. Yesterday I got two. One from Iwa and one from Eos.

Btw - it would be nice if they would put a grinder up on Eos’s center platform.