#1

I haven’t played the game till today and I notice that the Butcher’s recoil is uncontrollable. Anyone else noticed or is it just my game?

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#2

It’s always been pretty bad… I haven’t used once since the patch, so I can’t definitively answer your question, but yeah… it’s always been really recoil-y.

#3

It’s noticeably worse since Takedown dropped. I noticed immediately and if you scan through the patch notes thread a few others reported noticing it too.

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#4

Yes man, it’s my favourite gun and it’s pretty much unusable right now (atleast for me) :frowning: All of my Butcher got an Handling nerf (one went from 87% Handling to 69% Handling), I guess it’s because of that. I don’t like to call it that way, but it’s probably another stealth nerf (here’s hoping for a bug).

#5

Naw I just checked it out, the recoil is much worse then that accuracy change would suggest. This can’t be on purpose the weapon is unusable currently.

#6

Yeah man, I’m glad it’s not just my bad aim. Let’s see what they have to say.

#7

I just tried it out. It’s noticeably bad if you don’t ADS. On PC, I think it’s fine that you can mitigate the recoil by readjusting the aim quickly, but I don’t think it’s as forgiving on console. Guess they’re really invested into those accuracy and handling anointments.

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#8

I did ADS with it on PC. It’s just ridiculous recoil, not that I use a Butcher in the first place. But it felt horrible to shoot. Definitely nothing like last time I used one.

#9

You can just about control the recoil if you ADS (though I love to hip fire with Hyperion weapons) but if you get terrified you can forget about it

#10

I’m guessing you don’t have terror annointments that increase damage/fire rate or ammo regen. It negates the downsides of terror stacks.

#11

We aren’t talking about with Terror. We are talking about just the normal recoil of the Butcher after this patch. It’s worse then pre-patch with Terror on you.

#12

I was responding to that.

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#13

I know but 1) I don’t like terror and 2) I haven’t found a butcher with that anointment.

Off topic anyway - the recoil as standard is appalling now, it’s just even more negatively impacted by the ongoing event.

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#14

I had some with ammo regen, it didn’t negate anything while terrified, so when I shoot anything i see the sky. Dunno if that is an additional bug, but yeah definitely didn’t negate anything. I hate that terror crap, especially in story mode, really ■■■■ it!

#15

I’ve heard it’s hit and miss (ha!) as to whether that works

#16

Is it possible that it is affected by GR not functioning properly? I have 9.10% RR from GR, so that’s about 1 point of Moze’s Scrappy (assuming 1:1). Feels better, but not that much.

#17

Two more weeks. You can do it!

#18

I use a mouse on PC and this recoil nerf of the Butcher makes it unusable now! Even in ADS I almost pull my mouse off the desk to control it and hip fire means immediate roof grazing. Really sad as this was a favorite situational weapon for me and I have many different variants of it. It would have been helpful for Takedown but I guess if they don’t fix this, it goes in the same garbage pile as the other weapons they nerfed … sigh.

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#19

Everytime gearbox comes out with an update, I like this game less.

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#20

I ADS on PS4 and after a few shots it’s manageable. Hip fire is crazy though and Terror will make it worse.