Can we talk about Mayhem 3 and its modifiers?

The reason I don’t like Mayhem modifiers is that it makes your legendary guns useless (depending on the modifiers)

So what’s the point of having a legendary you have farmed for days be made useless by the modifiers.
And you are forced to use a weapon you don’t enjoy just to be able to do damage to the enemies.

I’m all for having higher difficulty levels , but doing it this way feels sloppy and frustrating. Not tougher. Even if the modifiers, make your favorite guns useless , you can switch to guns you don’t like and melt the enemies easily.
So where is the challenge?

Mayhem 3 should have more enemies spawn, better aim more hp and damage for enemies, more anointed , badasses, etc.
NOT, false toughness by handicapping you.
Handicapping you is the reverse of having endgame gear finding the right builds.

It’s like having your gear and items taken away just because you can kill things fast, instead of making the enemies more challenging.

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I 100% agree with this. They could even add other effects to enemies such as maybe they explode when you kill them and they do damage to you if you are too close. There is plenty to be done without nerfing the player. Buff the enemies, don’t nerf the player!

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I have no issues with the reflect modifier either once I noticed the reflected projectile followed the original one’s path making it avoidable in most cases if you didn’t stand in 1 spot. One of the first responses I got on these forums when I pointed this out was someone complaining that they have to stand still with FL4K to get a damage bonus from one of his skills.

IMO I’d rather them leave that modifier alone as is and look into the other things I’ve mentioned in regards of the modifiers for weapon types lacking variety and some of the other modifiers we had in previous games that aren’t present in Mayhem mode.

Nerfing or removing the reflect modifier to me feels like they’re just dumbing down the game to appease people that refuse to adapt or improve. Something I also feel is a troubling trend in games in general as it seems that its gone from players improving to overcome the game to players complaining for the sole purpose of having the developer make it easier for them.

The bonues to exp and drops on mayhem modes are rewards to players for choosing to play with these randomized factors making the challenge level essentially unpredictable. However it seems like in my view that too many people have taken these boosts as an entitlement or a requirement to see a legendary item in game. As such this has also resulted in many responses basically being people saying they want all the stuff without having to do all the stuff.

The problem is that it changes people’s I win strategy of just standing in place and falling the keyboard while spinning the mouse wheel.

Or you know, as previously mentioned, some character skills activate “while standing still” so it kinda takes your damage away as well.

No it doesn’t. It just means you need to adjust your play style and can’t count on that skill as the only way to win. Stand still, Fire, then move immediately.

This is like the old killavolt argument about dying when the floor lights up. Don’t fudging stay on the ground. Keep jumping, I never went down to it.

This game has options upon options.

I’m pretty sure the game counts damage upon impact of the bullet, that’s why weapon swapping can make some really high numbers. Meaning that if you shoot and move before the bullet hits the enemy you are not getting the damage from your skills.
Also i don’t see any point in arguing this, literally the developers of the game said that it is a problem and that it will be changed.

I am starting to think something is wrong with my game. I finish the game go into Mayhem mode doesnt matter which one and I have gotten no legendaries with hours and days of farming. I go in with friends and oh i got a legendary me nothing but greens really ??? I have farmed and farmed all the places people suggest solo to see if makes a difference and nothing nothing nothing getting to the point of just giving it up. I hear constantly from friends they are getting legendaries and i get skunked . any one here of these kinds of issues and what may be causing it??? so frustrating

I don’t think this is the correct topic for your post, as for a bug like that, I’m not sure any of us can tell you more than to try restarting the game.

ok new to forums where it the correct place then
that would be helpful

Depending on which platform you are playing it would be one of the Tech support posts, or at least that’s my best guess.
For example this is for PC: https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/c/Borderlands-3/BL3-PC-TechSupport
Try finding people that posted about a similar problem, and if not create a new topic :smiley:
If you think that its more of a general bug and not a technical one, then it should probably be a topic in general discussion…

It is getting looked into. The combat designer at gbx said during a stream interview that they are looking to rebalance Mayhem mode to prevent it from enforcing builds/playstyles and crippling others rather than just encouraging you to adapt for best efficiency.