“You can still knockback a melee attacker without pushing yourself backwards.” I think you are missing the reasoning why people pick that pushback at 3. I can easily jump from the ground by shock turret to the sniper ledge on overgrowth, prior to level 7. I can also jump directly from behind my first sentry up to support station instead of having to run around into LOS to run up stairs. I can also jump from double thrall up to the old shard ledge. You can do a lot more taking advantage of the map on monuments. I can quickly round corners to clear LOS. I can quickly dodge a bubble, fetch, hook, hawkeye, etc… I can jump and stall myself in the air to dodge a sublimate, dread wind, boldur dash, etc… And then when you get 7, thorn is in the air the entire game. I can hard counter a Toby with thorn but I despise playing her against him because I have to miss out on the most fun helix and I spend half the game jumping in the air and melee’ing nothing looking like an idiot. I also think you are exaggerating quite a bit saying how you can curse everyone on a line. How often are people lining up in a single file line. I don’t need that to curse the entire team anyway. That’s why piercing volley is a thing, so that I can curse all the minions and whatever players were in the lane. Is penetrating arrows better for wave clear and achieving the highest damage output possible? Yes. But unless the opposing team has all big frame characters, or a Toby, I’d never choose it.
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How am I exaggerating? If they are in a line and I have my bow drawn, I can curse them. That is not an exaggeration.
If you are using volley as your primary source of curses then you are missing out on the curse bonus damage on volley.
Highest damage is what I aim for as thorn.
No no. My main target will get a cursed arrow first. Just so happens that the volley that follows will also hit every minion and player in that general area to take the curse and bleed. If there is nobody out in the lane for an arrow and volley. Then yes I’m going to volley the entire minion wave to get the bleed and damage amp towards my blight on them.
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