Were they changed?
I completed the same lore challenges I did in the Beta to get them, but they still arenāt available, has the requirements changed since the Beta? Anybody noticed anything?
I believe the legendary gear for characters requires all 5 lore challenges. During beta i think i heard you only needed upper right.
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Yeah I figured
jeeze then all 5, benedicts wasnt even that special.
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Have the changed the lore challenges to be doable things now? Cause some of those have an all party of eldrich for 5 matches was ridiculous.
Not positive, but I think they are the same. I donāt have them all memorized to say for sure.
CanĀ“t speak for other characters but my poor Benedict has to play with at least 3 other UPR guys ā¦ 5 times ā¦ 
ā¦ so I guess not.
This only encourages me to grab a few friends start a game and the immediately forfeit 3 times to unlock such a stupid condition. Thanks Gearboxā¦
While I wouldnĀ“t surrender to grab the lore stuff quickly it certainly is less than ideal that you have to talk your mates into playing characters they might not enjoy just for you to get some stuff. 
I daresay only limited thought went into that challenge design!
First off how balanced do you think a team would be based on just using your same faction. Then imagine making your friends who just want to play there favorite characters get stuck as one of the lower tier characters they do not want to play or is good at playing and if your playing a full game that is 30-40 minutes each with that character, what 3 times so 2 hours with characters they do not like.
I am telling you people will form the team and vote to forfeit after ten minutes when the option becomes available unless your friends just like the madness of the game i guess 
Well actually capture maps only take like 10 minutes anyway 
ā¦ so you can always play those if you want some challange done quickly.
As for ābalanceā ā¦ I donĀ“t think team composition is that big of a deal. IĀ“ve had my team roflstomp the other guys with full meele, with or without healer or tank and whatnot ā¦
If anything Miko (or maybe Ambra) and some brawler can be considered somehwat āessentialā ā¦ and that is still far from guaranteeing a win as IĀ“ve seen over and over again.
We can agree on the fact that those challanges donĀ“t really have a reason to exist and arenĀ“t particular sophisticated, but then again ā¦ ItĀ“s not THAT bad, is it?
Itās not that bad compared to what? The balancing has several aspects to it guess, Such as if your playing a character you do not like are you going to do well with them. Are some characters better then others or at least a must have to make a good party balance. Does faction required partyās really mess up this balance? There is still a level of time requirement and friendship obligation to unlock these. I mean sure i could think of worse unlock conditions 
If you wanted to cheese the unlocks, couldnāt all 5 of you just play Benedict in hardcore story-mode and then just suicide?
As stupid as it sounds ā¦ that might actually work!
ā¦ sadly no such way to kill my 25 Ambras on Galilea though ā¦
Canāt you play vs a player in split screen private pvp mode?
As I said ā¦ I donĀ“t feel like team composition matters that much.
I usually play with one or two friends and we won at least 75% of our matches (probably more) so far ā¦ and that was by not giving a damn about team comp and playing what we felt like.
If you have some skill and play the objective you steamroll the other guys ā¦ if you suck ā¦ well ā¦ then you find yourself on the receiving end. 
I think only in very close matches (skill-wise) will team comp really affect the outcome.
ā¦ and by saying itĀ“s ānot THAT badā I meant that while itĀ“s bothersome itĀ“s nothing to cry about. ItĀ“s not like it negatively affects our (long-term) gameplay experience. At the moment there are other, more significant issues still.
Challanges and achievements are not available in private PvP.