#157

The other augments are not competitive because they do nothing within the actual F4de Away - meaning they can do nothing to make base F4de more competitive with GiTM. If one of the augments had massively increased Fl4k’s single shot power, or allowed kills to refund the shot fired, they would be immediately competitive.

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#158

But you can just use unblinking eye with base fade away. Fade away may have an increased 200% crit damage, but it still basically doubles the crit damage you would be doing by the final shot. Considering that all you were doing with gorillas in the mist was spamming a Jakobs on crit to clear out mobs, having a single extremely powerful shot from the Jakobs weapon that is doing plus 400% crit damage would surely be enough to clear out mobs as well.

#159

Fl4k is made of glass and even more so now. Honestly that’s all he was good for, so now what? You can’t handle big mobs, forget the over powered enemies, you just go down. I guess we were kind of willing to trade that for his DPS. Buttttt no. So now what is his selling point verse the other vault hunters that are stronger and aren’t glass on top of it

#160

Different playstyle some might enjoy more (‘pocket rakks’ are actually a lot of fun)? Voice, appearance. Having a sidekick monkey with a gun?

Not everyone is a min-maxer here and insists on playing with the most optimal (for some definition of ‘optimal’) build.

#161

I definitely agree with you for bossing - I think Base F4de + Unblinking Eye is one of the most powerful burst damage combos.

But my point was more directed at the previous post which said LnT was the key factor as to why GiTM was so preferred. And I said the main reason is that 2 of the augments are pretty darn useless , so making there no cost in not using GiTM for mobbing (as opposed to using another augment). The only cost was whether you preferred base F4de or GiTM. If there was another powerful augment which explicitly benefited base F4de, and given UE is a must grab, there would be truly 2 different ways of using FA.

#162

For everyone who is only playing solo… Disconnect your console from the internet and play in offline mode… the game is pre-nerf. :slight_smile: happy FL4K happy farming haha

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#163

Pretty sure they patched the hotfix in, so that doesn’t work

#164

i’m on my PS4 playing offline right now. +50% crit damage for GITM and still at original duration.

#165

Proof: picture of my tv right now

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#166

Great. This! ty! And everyone complaining about mozes nades ignoring, she has a pointless action skill to carry!!!

#167

Nope fl4k nerfs were after the patch. The patch didnt really do much noticeable stuff. Possibly a secret loot balance too

#168

For those who haven’t seen, they nerfed fl4k. Again. Now there is a 2 second cooldown to Leave No Trace. The first nerf was unfortunate but maybe necessary. This nerf just makes me not want to play anymore.

#169

I don’t know why I am surprised they are ignoring the community as a whole, but I am a little. It’s sad that gamers are arguing with each other now about this all over the place. We all like playing and have different styles and like doing different things in the game. I don’t know why anyone cares. I don’t care if someone doesn’t like melting things, or doesn’t like farming, or wants more challenge or whatever. Why the hell should anyone care what I like to do sitting in my home? Enough to be a douche about it on the internet? Like I mean ok, I guess those people are just super cool and I am missing something. At the end of the day, I think the fixes could have been made to make everyone happy, or just make more options for play style. Done. Everyone is happy. The nerfing, I don’t know…it seems to be overkill. It made a lot of things change, not just fl4k melting graveward, which is like all anyone is talking about and it’s dumb. Everyone can melt graveward, he’s such a bad example of what really changed with the guns and the build. Now everyone who plays fl4k and has any kind of complaint at all, just gets looked at as a person “who can’t melt graveward with a King or queens” I don’t know who’s dumber here. If that’s what people think the “complaints” are about, they are dumb. No one cares about graveward. What about the rest of the game? The things that changed with weapons and fl4k affect him for the rest of the game especially in M3. He’s just kind of like an Axton now. Or I just really suck at playing. If I do really suck at playing that’s ok too, because we should all just be having fun. I’m ranting, but it’s just aggravating. It’s also aggravating to have these forums and not one thing was addressed, not one thing has been mentioned about the opinions on here, so then why ask us!?

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#170

I’ve decided to go with my original build idea for flak the one I made even before the game came out. Using not my circus. I got a red suit shield with a double amp on it so 50% amp damage plus the radiation aoe. Originally I had planned to use the skull masher but as that gun isn’t in the game sadly had to settle for headsplosion. Four kills max per shot up to 12 in normal flak action skill decent at clearing adds. Skull masher would have been like a chance for 7 kills a shot but what can do you.

I just fire 2 shots straight off then charge at the nearest guy melee him to death need a better relic for this then fire the final shot right before the skill ends. Works well enough for me I guess.

#171

woah woah woah, you defniitely need to try out some other builds or weapons if you think FL4K is bad.

persistant hunter + fade away + guerillas in the mist + rowan’s call = an automatic assault rifle that ricochets 2 bullets with an infinite clip. Everything dies on mayhem 3. everything

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#172

Til they remove the 20% buff to jakobs ARs and nerf them

#173

If they do that I’m quitting FL4K

#174

Highly doubt it will be the case. Just teasing

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#175

It used to be good. It used to wreck everything now you’ll get halfway through a badass and run out of time. I play on tvhm3 always had to full on retire that build was completely worthless. Couldn’t even bring down chupacobratch with it. Would take 2 action skills plus constant shooting inbetween.

#176

The only way that performs at all now is if the modifiers are massively in your favor. That pretty much never happens so yeah.