Could The Warrior Really Wipe Out All Life On Pandora?

I really like the idea and the visuals of a Lava Tsunami is fascinating indeed. The fight against the Warrior makes clear that it is unaffected by lava, but I don’t see it controlling lava in a way that suggests it can bring the lava with it.

But I might miss a piece of lore here.
@sammantixbb Do you mind telling me on what the idea is based?

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I’m assuming based on the idea that it lives in the lava and it’s heart appears to be made of magma. I feel that the lava riding and falling had to do with it’s stress levels during the fight, and that once it grew accustomed to being on this plane (Angel says in BL1 that the monster there was weak upon entering our plane), that it would have been fully able to have control of the lava.

That, and that that is literally the only way that monster could have done anything to the planet. It’s a big assumption on my part that Roland and Jack weren’t wrong, but that we just never saw the monster reach it’s potential.

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If we set aside unrealistic video game mechanics and such (how in actual reality can Gaige ‘train’ herself so that her guns do more damage the more inaccurately she fires them and also the bullets magically bounce towards enemies!?) and go strictly on story and lore, the Warrior was supposed to be death incarnate. Trying to gain control of it is the main thrust of both Jack and the Crimson Raiders in the story. The victory over the Warrior at the end is supposed to be a display of determination and overcoming the greatest of odds from a narrative standpoint.

One could make the argument that Terra (or most any other raid boss) could wipe the floor with the Warrior strictly going by game mechanics and how powerful they are as something a gamer fights in a video game, but if this was a TV show or something the Warrior could be shown swooping in and melting Hyperius or roasting Terra etc. He’s the Biggest Bad in the narrative.

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New U stations and skill trees aren’t canon!

From a story standpoint, the heroes are never supposed to have died except when they are showed to die (stupid, shieldless Roland, Angel, etc) so when you look at it from that perspective, it’s pretty miraculous what they pull off!

One of my favourite little details in all of Borderlands are the fliers for the “Non Canon Museum” that you can find in the main hub city in the Pre Sequel (Opportunity, was it? It’s been a while).

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Concordia? Where Jack shot the Meriff, but neglected to shoot the Meputy? I’ve not seen that, so I will have to have a look around next time my lunar lander hits Elpis.

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Yes, Concordia, thank you!

Look around for like book rack / book shelf / magazine stand looking things in various buildings, then zoom in on the magazine / flyer covers.

Some very amusing / meta stuff!

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There should be a Trip Advisor: Pandora/Elpis website somewhere. And postcards. I would hang framed Borderlands postcards around the apartment. At least until my wife made me take them down.

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So, Lilith in a fight is more of an inside guy for the enemies than anything else but in her introduction cutscene she totally explodes the Bruisers with her phaseblast. She then requires a small chunk of Eridium to keep fighting at her annoying level for a few minutes.
After the fight she says she needs to return to Sanctuary to keep it running while Rolands gone.

Soo, one bandit car and and a shooting gauntlet in a dam later we have Roland back but Lilith is just staying in Sanctuary. You could argue something about her being alive being a secret at first or that she needs to stay in Sanctuary to fend of the possibitily of moonshot blitzes (very weak excuse for Hyperion to not shoot any anymore) or the fact that she says she doesn’t know if she could phase the city anymore so maybe she can’t one shot bandits anymore. Buuut at control core she is again fighting the way she would with a small amount of eridium…

Yo, Lilith. There’s 500 full eridium bars in my pockets. How about I give you 5 at the time and you’ll one shot some enemies for me for a minute or two. Keep up now, were off to farm Saturn.

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And not to forget: “Here imma TP you to Bloodshot so you can catch them off guard lolol! Ooops didn’t work OH YEAH BTW you might wanna train for a bit before you go there!”

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And then you don’t, unless you count shooting a car turret as training.

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But they’re not Moonshot blitzes! They’re Helios blitzes!
Always has bothered me. Every time we’re blitzed by shipping containers or loaders one can see them being launched from Helios. And we saw the danged launcher in TPS. And in the Lilith DLC the “moonshot launcher” is in Helios Fallen.
Can we please retcon all dialog and references to Helios Blitzes please? Would make one small pain in my head go away.
–RoA

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But…but…it’s colloquial AND catchy!

Hahaha…that is funny though, they DO always launch from Helios rather than Elpis!

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The sensation you’re feeling inside your head is commonly known as headache. What you may not know, is the fact that it’s also refered to as “Moonshot Blitzes”. If need arises, you should see a doctor. Dr. Zed is not a real doctor, so he’s out of the question.

For all we know, Helios could be one of many such bases, and it’s also the last one built. If this is the case, it would make little sense to call it “Helios Blitzes”. However… The Moonshot cannon on Helios shoots supply crates. The bombardment that’s refered to as “Blitz”, comes from mortars.

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I think what’s going on is a bad wording choice over at Hyperion upper management.
The Helios station is a moon of some sort, or rather a satellite strategically located between orbits
The blitz was never meant to be interpreted as coming from elpis, Pandora’s actual moon, but Pandora’s new artificial moon Helios. I believe this is also why people occasionally call it the “Hyperion moonbase” even though it is very clearly not on elpis; it is a moon.

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Oooohhhhhh…!

I like the way you think!

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The lava rises when the Warrior dives into it…pretty sure Archimedes worked that one out a few thousand years ago :sunglasses: but yeah, it’d have to be some really convoluted explanation of why these advanced spacefaring races with moonshots etc. couldn’t handle some large dinosaur or the blob.

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Well, if the Warrior came out of the lava and the lava didn’t lower, then that theory doesn’t hold water as a crowning achievement. Eureka :stuck_out_tongue:

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If that’s meant to be a BL1 Firehawk, isn’t it the wrong colour?

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I think it kinda looks like a Tinderbox with that color and the side loaded mag.

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