Dahl First Impressions: Most Improved Gun Manufacture?

So are the angled iron sites only when you switch over to the underbarrel gun?

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Underbarrels are Vladof, Dahl changes firing modes. But yes, it does look like changing it also changes the sight used.

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They’re good against them, but the best thing ever against Constructors imo is Base Lady Fist + Bee.

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Bekah wrecks constructors

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There, fixed that for you. Anything mechanical and/or heavily-armored should be fired upon with a Pestilent Defiler! If they’re heavily shielded, start with your best Shock Weapon to bring down the shields, then switch to the PD. :wink::+1:

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I don’t think so. Even if it was in BL2, it wouldn’t have the Lady Fist’s +800% crit bonus, that’s what makes the LF so insane with the Bee. Every crit multiplies Bee damage by 18, the LF’s gun damage doesn’t even matter.

But I think we’re getting a little off the thread subject…

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The bekah does x15 with the bee but the base damage is 3 or 4 times higher than the fist, and it has 4 bullets per pull

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Hm, 13.8x according to my calculations. Yeah, it’s got much higher gun damage but the main damage still comes from the Bee. Without any gun damage boosts their damage is pretty much the same actually, but of course with gun damage skills, badass ranks etc. Bekah takes the lead. BUT… that’s with a non-elemental Lady Fist. The corrosive one has another x1.75 multiplier against Constructors so takes the lead and is out of reach.

Things change a lot though if you’re Sal… made a fun calculation: Bee (1,600,000 dmg), right hand Bekah (660,000), left hand Lady Fist (dmg doesn’t matter), rank 11 Money Shot, enemy slagged… the last round of that magazine, if all 4 bullets crit, should do 2.4 billion damage (before factoring in other skills, badass ranks and enemy dmg reduction).

Sorry for rambling, but I just love these number games :yum:

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The lady fist is 180k at op8, the bekah is 660k with 3 unlisted pellets. So in that case the difference is base does matter.

2,640,000 to 180,000 just base damage.

Also a 13 fire rate to a roughly 4 I think on the lady fist. Lady fist wins on 1 shot, bekah wins on DPS with the fire rate over 3 times faster

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Yeah but the LF has a 18x crit multiplier, the Bekah 3.45x, so on critting that’s 9,108k vs 3,240k. Bee damage is over 20,000k, that’s what I meant with gun damage is not that important here.

Fire rate is 5 on most LFs and with a few items, skills and badass ranks you can boost that to 10 or so.

But of course this all depends on having a fully charged Bee and critting all the time. The Bekah is still super strong without any of that, while the Lady Fist becomes useless.

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Lady Fist
(180,000 + 1,892,857) x 2 x (1 + 8) x 1.75 = 65,294,995.5

Bekah
(660,000 + 1892857) x 2 x (1 + .5) x (1 + 1.15) x 4 = 35,229,426.6

So yeah half the damage per hit but since the fire rate is 3x higher you do more DPS with the bekah.

So for every 65 million you do with the lady fist the bekah can do 105 million.

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How do you fire 13x per second with a Jakobs assault rifle though? 7 clicks per second is the absolute max I can do, so with a few fire rate boosts I have a higher fire rate with the LF than the Bekah

Now we’re playing moving the bar,

The point I was making is the bekah on constructors can keep up with the lady fist.

Depending on character, skill tree, relic, bar, com, etc… One can out do the other.

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Yeah, amen to that.

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You probably don’t want to know how often I buy a new mouse because I’ve worn out the left button from clicking too much. On some games in the past the game itself couldn’t keep up.

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How does shooting a Dahl full auto compare to a Vladoff with bipod active?

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