#41

No, his base cooldown is 1min 44s down from 2 minutes due to his guardian rank.

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#42

As the sneakynoodle, I believe my guardian rank reduced my base cooldown. Not much I can do about that for testing. Itā€™s currently 12.85%.

Keep in mind on M4 itā€™s easier said than done to kill 15 enemies in 2 minutes. But even 5 to 6 is a good chunk of time off your cooldown, while 1 point in it will do basically nothing ~3s or 4.

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#43

Iā€™ve always been critical of this skill simply because of its diminishing returns (for a kill skill) which feel like a countermeasure Gearbox put in place for being way too scared about Iron Bear becoming anything close to Salā€™s Gunzerking. But ever since I recently started playing around with Auto Bear with the intention of hopping in and hopping straight out again, running 5/5 Grizzled is gamechanging in that particular scenario and has added a whole other dimension to my build!

If you eject Moze out immediately after summoning IB, the cooldown is about 40 seconds (I do have bonus CD rate in my GR but Iā€™m assuming thatā€™s broken, Iā€™ve not reset it at any point.) Even if youā€™re one of those who currently canā€™t enjoy Topped Off, 40 seconds is ample enough time considering that youā€™ve got Auto Bear for 15 of those seconds and the diminishing returns have the least effect on Grizzled when the cooldown period is only a third of what it could be at its worst.

Moze and Iron Bear as a pair, is a major DPS buff in itself overall, and super helpful in terms of Moze gaining traction and momentum more easily for her gun damage kill skills. But whatā€™s also significant is that it brings Moze more into the ballpark for anointment bonuses. Of course, she wonā€™t ever consistently match a ā€˜phakegraspā€™ Amara or a Rakk Attack Fl4k in that department, but this makes her become far less of a helpless victim.

As well as overall DPS, it helps increase her survivability too as youā€™re enjoying ā€˜god modeā€™ moments more often simply entering and exiting IB, as well as having him act as a sentry for you to use cover. However, it does feel weird that the most effective way to use Iron Bear is as a temporary AI turret with minimal cooldown to help Moze reap anointment bonuses more often, rather than going all in on an IB-focused build. A max period of up to 120 seconds wouldnā€™t be such a problem if Gearbox stopped being so stingy and restrictive on Iron Bearā€™s cooldown skills.

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#44

I have an IB anointed Surge. So I can stomp around in IB with grenades flying everywhere lol.

Itā€™s probably one of the beat Moze pieces Iā€™ve got since playing.

#45

Is that grenade anointment working? I just put a surge with it in my bag to try rocketeer out again now that cooldown is short. I want grenades just going off everywhere while in dakka bear.

Btw even after resetting my game after respec my full iron bear cooldown is under 45s. Is this right or is something messed up?

Edit: nevermind it appears to not work with auto bear

#46

Yeah, anointed effects for IB donā€™t necessarily apply to AB.

That said, IB is super stronk now. I easily cleared M4 SS with a build I slapped together in a couple of minutes. I used a low level Loop of Angel to buff my cooldown and I was getting IB back in like 30 seconds. Now if i only had a cloning maddening tracker with a good anointed effectā€¦

Also, I think Iā€™m going to convert to the church of exploding miniguns. As long as you are hitting crits, they deal way more damage per IB ride.

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#47

Save me a google? Whatā€™s this?

Yeah Iron Bear is pretty good right now. I put a rocketeer build together to test how strong it is without doing anything. He is killing everything while I just chill with a fully charged shield in dakka.

The cooldown is under 45 seconds with guardian ranks. And Iā€™m making sure to restart my game to avoid the super cooldown bug when I respec.

#48

It is the quest reward from The Childhoodā€™s End sidequest. It boosts your CDR while the shield is depleted.

#49

And low level so itā€™s always down Iā€™m guessing?

Is it more significant than kills after exiting iron bear?

#50

That cooldown is correct if you have topped off. With topped off alone a full IB cooldown is 40 seconds. 120/(1+2)=40

#51

I seriously forgot how good guardian perks made moze. I can finally have my band of sitorak build again its my favourite build.

#52

Whatā€™s the build? Iā€™d been thinking about running this or The Ward on Moze for some extra damage since my shield is almost always depleted anyway with m4 being so chaotic

#53

I assume it has +75% Health after exiting IB if not Nova when entering and exiting.

Without Topped off it takes a lot of work to get IB CD under 25 seconds.

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#54

Iā€™ve got the 20% IB spawn for this and the explosions are GODDAMN F*CKING BEAUTIFUL (as torgue would say). Tho, I think that anointment either has a limited number of grenades it fires or something because it seems to stop after several seconds, even tho IB is receiving dmg.

How do you kill anointed militants in SS by the way? IB is TERRIBLE with them and moze isnt much better on foot.

#55

I heard that annointment were bugged, not tested it myself though. Supposedly it only proc once per IB use and you need to re-equip it inbetween each time.

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#56

Honestly, if it kept firing Iā€™d be fine with that, even if they put some kind of cool down on it.

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#57

20% seem way to high for multiple procs agreed. If they changed it to 6% like MoD and no cooldown perhaps that would be something?

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#58

There is no good way to take down anointed militantsā€¦

I mostly save IB for badass/armored enemies. I fight trash mobs on foot with a damage anointed Q-System and anointed enemies with an incendiary weapon ā€“ Iā€™m using a Faisor right now, but Iā€™m still exploring my options. The Linoage is great, but like all COV weapons, it doesnā€™t synergize well with the Blaster Master; the Companion can also be good if you manage to get consistent headshots.

#59

Actually if you think about it, the text in that anointment makes no sense. If IB takes more than 5 bullets, thereā€™s a huge chance on will spawn. It should just say ā€œWhile taking damage, IB will spawn a grenade every 6 secondsā€ or something.

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I have one with +35% max health, or I use one without the anointment that has +50% max health anointed with heal 5% after exit.

The idea behind it is because itā€™s such a small capacity shield with a really low delay and fast recharge, a second or 2 after being hit you have your shield full charged, taking advantage of topped off.

Youā€™re also strong outside of iron bear because health gate shots wonā€™t kill you in one hit. As a bonus when your shields down you gain 23% bonus damage from the shield.

Click click I keep my mag at 1/4 to 1/3 for 20 to 25 percent bonus damage all the time. I okayed around with vladof ingenuity to be the counter weight to having my shield depleted, but click click is just better as I always have it.

Iā€™ve beat slaughter shaft multiple times with it now. Class mod is of course blast master, though mind sweeper could be subbed if you take more Vampyr points. Just hop in iron bear every 30s to take out 2 or 3 tough enemies and one shot trash mobs.

Highly recommend getting a band of sitorak.