DDD: Wilhelm's skills for Organics

It requires math, cant have guides without it because then you just have opinions and opinions arent logic, opinions are for plebians and mongrels.

Youre adding in other skills to your equation, that cant be done.
Needs to be looked at as a standalone then with others.
This isnt as easy as people think, I dont let people use my ip if they do things wrong.
Yes I have a copywrite for DDD.

Ok ignore the other skills, whatever your damage is, If we’re in a vacuum if you crit with TS, your shots will be doing 50% more damage than they were doing without it. Even when you’re not in a vacuum, it’s still a 40-50% damage boost on kill, its not muddied much by bonuses from your other skills (If escalation is in fact type B it’s not muddied at all by your other skills), It’s a much larger damage increase than his other skills (most of which are small addidtive GD boosts), not to mention the practical, hard-to math correctly, benefit of free accuracy, which is essentially a DPS increase for any weapon with a spread. It may be a kill skill but its a pretty darn good one.

Have I made a point, yet, sir?

Youre about 27% of the way there.
Accuracy, full dps with each type of build, logistic analysis, testing its type, etc.
Each skill takes a massive amount of time to test in full, I think the community deserves that time spent. Dont you? It differs us from the youtube community.

There are some other problems I have with this guide, but I’ll just take a back seat.


For now Escalation’s math

  • No bar, gear, or skills until I spec into Escalation.


5466*(2*(1+1)) = 21864


5466*(2*(1+1+0.25) = 24597


Thus Escalation is additive

  1. Not New. Been playing since BL1, on forums since pre-uvhm BL2. Me having a different opinion doesn’t mean I haven’t been around here.

  2. I may not be able the greatest at math, thus the lack of equations, but that’s why I tried to make logical argument with our it. Wilhelm has no multiplicate damage buffs besides LG as far as I know and laser focus locks you into 1 weapon type (and would Wilhelm even really use railguns over other lasers).

It doesn’t seem like too much of a stretch to put it on at least equal footing with LF for that reason (not being weapon locked). If this has to be backed up pages of math then I’m afraid I can’t do you that, but I do believe I’ve made my point.

Again, this is your guide and you don’t have to change anything. But, as was said, this is a community guide, and we can at least offer rebuttals as to why a skill should be rated higher.

What problems? Read the old forums version and my pms. Then say you have problems.
But yay math stuff.

Youre dealing with a higher life form than humans, I dont tollerate opinions.
I require the math.
Think of me as a computer.

I dont know how many more times I can say that.

I have no comment

I wanted to pretend t never happened but since someone brought the Flakker up I guess it’s a perfect time.
So Blutfatal, you’re complaining about drama based on others threatening your possessions over your opinions yet a few months back you had no qualms against threatening to hack someone because they hated the Flakker.

That’s also a smidge Hypocritical.

I never once threatened that, I said I knew how to and thought it would be funny but lose my job if I did.
You seem not not read things fully.
We’ve had this issue before and kitty did imply I have an abrasive and hard to deal with personality.
I’m apathetic and have no understanding of emotions unless I’ve had an eighth of rum, even then I confused them.
Remember that.

But you still got so upset you resorted to mentioning your “technical skills” in a way implying that you wanted to but didn’t do so out of fear of losing your job, not because of morality, but because of your occupation.

You still threatened that you wanted to or were thinking of doing harm to someone because they didn’t like your favorite gun, just like how people apparently did so to you because you thought some skills are bad.

If a Cop said he could shoot you 16 times but didn’t want to lose his badge over it, it would still be a threat.

It was not a threat at all and I dont get upset, I get annoyed.
It was a reminiscence of a old joke we had a long time ago. Youd have to be an older member to understand it.
Don’t bring it up again.

Or what? You’ll offer me a Flakker? lol

Cant I dont own a ps3.
I will how ever pm you pictures of flakkers each day for a million days.

Guys, let’s try to keep the discussion civil and on the topic of the game and not other players, please. Thanks!

<3 <3

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Okay being honest here, that made me laugh a lot.
I’ll drop it. lol

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I guess the old forum version wasn’t archived and I’m pretty sure I can’t read your pms. But since you asked I’ll say some of the issues I have with the thread.


In the end I don’t personally care how you rank the skills, but I feel that their descriptions deserve some attention. I.E

  • Laser Guided - It should be mentioned that in UVHM is does 87.5% more damage to marked targets instead of 25% from what I’ve heard, making it way better than the Death Mark and Death Blossom combo in that regard.

  • Vengeance Cannon - It causes your (at least laser) weapons to have zero recoil while active, and to a lesser extent the fact it can have glitch effects transferred over to it.

And all the other things that the general populace wouldn’t know and any other weird quirks his skills have that are useful.

And I’m not belittling you when I say this, but if you really had that much time into this then it shouldn’t have been up in the air so long on whether or not Escalation was multiplicative.


So I just feel some attention to the skill descriptions is warranted. If you need any evidence or math just ask.

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Honestly I was trying to find the thread about crits ti remember what the types did.
I did splash not crits after all.

But I honestly needed to put those two in the descriptions for a while, thanks for the reminder.

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The guide is great and so is the effort behind it.

But its a “guide.” meant to help and suggest.

Not Army Regulations…

Most things in it I totally agree with…some I find puzzling and give the benefit of the doubt…a small few I just disagree with.

Up to me (or you) to pick and choose based on your own experiences, play style, and what you know “works” for you.

And that’s what I TOTALLY love about this series! Sooooooo many variables and so many different ways to skin the cat.

Your complaints have been noted and thrown in the garbage just like your youth.
Have a horrible day.

I sang to you in discord the other night, you were away.
The song was highly offensive.

I should do a wilhelm kitchen sink thread