how much play time do you have on deande??
players use other melee characters cuz they are easier to play with not cuz they are necessarily better. every character has their strengths. you just have to put in the time and learn what they are.
Um, I have her mastered, as I’ve mentioned in my post. I’ve played 76 matches with her. I’ve gotten 402 players kills and 287 deaths with her. I’m sure others have played her more but I think it’s fair to say I probably understand how to use her. Please re-read my post because I state clearly my issues with her and that I love her skill set but it is not on par with similar characters.
Most of what you said is fine. But the first half could have either been reworded, or completely left out.
It dosnt come off too nicely…
Try to be a wee bit more constructive. Maybe give some advice 
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It’s a fairly common view that Deande is underpowered. Just have a look at this thread: Melee Tier List
Indeed. I’ve put more hours into this game than most. I even wrote up a guide for new and mid level players. I don’t understand the need for hostility.
I’m gonna have to agree with all the points mentioned. I like her whole idea, even bought the skin for her. I mained Phoebe before using her and Deande just feels really underwhelming in all aspects imo. She’s the only assassin in the game that has a hard time assassinating anyone else, and thus, the fear factor for her isn’t there. Usually you would be wary about getting caught alone against Raths and Phoebes but Deande not so much, especially when most characters can just outrun her, since she only gets her slow at level six (not too sure about this). That and her really wonky melee range as well, to the point where her Holotwin has a better time hitting opponents than myself! She definitely needs a buff to her movement speed, maybe give her the ability to attack while sprinting? And her melee hitbox needs to be looked at as well.
Everything I absolutely agree on, I play as her because I like her play style but yes, she is slow, her ult is underwhelming, and she could use a little more touches to make her a better character than before.
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you are totally correct. i really dont mean to sound like an a-hole. but everyday someone post about some character saying rework/nerf/buff this on a character. i think the game is in a perfect place as far as character balance.
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Thanks for understanding
really cant take that tread serious after reading that atticus was a the bottom tier melee character.
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idk bout yall, but i make it my mission to get really good with the charater that th community is constantly complaining about (WF, Benedict, Bouldour, Atticus) but after reading this deande will be my next project after i finish up el’ dragon.
Here’s the thing, if you disagree with any of the points I posted, please state why. The whole “get good” thing doesn’t really provide any insight or address any of my points. YOU didn’t address any of my points. I’ve played her plenty. I’ve had great games. But I have gotten no where need to 30 kills with Deande but it’s not that tough with Rath. Easier and effective are two separate criteria. That’s why you always see a Rath instead of a Deande. A good Rath is much stronger than a good Deande. I would just like to have the option to choose Deande and be At least close to as effective.
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It has nothing to do with “getting good” I can murder anyone with any character I play. I top perform on charts when I play DPS and a good chunk of the time as support.
Just because a person can adapt and overcome a characters weaknesses does not mean they are balanced.
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soinds like you play her wrong. just saw today she is my most played in pvp, but i havent touched her in a forever. but yeah if you take uppercut over lifesteal and aoe over dodge stealth, youre plahing her into being slow and unviable. get good with throwing fans to clear waves and sustain, while connecting your blade dash and you will destroy any rath. outside of mellka, deande has best mobility in game, so use it to your advantage to get behind enemy lines, steal and break their ■■■■, then get out. and her ult is group stun aoe that kills squishies. what more you want?
edit: gear suggestions : spring speet, mvmt speed, attack speed, healing received, % skill dmg shoulld increase weaken and lifesteal on burst dash,
You just said it. You have to take the dash or she’s slow. I finish with my dash since there’s the whole problem of them just running away. Being forced to select uppercut and clone dash to be mobile is the issue. If you look at the previous comments, I stated I did have great games and I’ve played 76 matches with her. She might be you’re main, that’s fine. But there are far better alternatives for assassin roles.
lifesteal over uppercut anyday. like i mentioned above with edit, i think the gear system is there for you to reshape/fit hero to your playstyle.
Yeah I’ve been taking life steal over uppercut for while for the sustain and I feel uppercut makes you a big target while you’re up in the air. The problem is, if you don’t have your slow or move speed gear, they can simply outrun you. I’m not saying that she can’t be played effectively. I’m saying that her maximum effective level is way lower than other assassins. Can you get 20 kills regularly? 30? If not, then why play her over Rath? If I play Rath, I can navigate faster since I don’t rely on abilities. I can damage more targets with a single swipe since his blade is longer and he swings vertical/horizontal. His super is almost always at least a single kill while with Deande, that would be lucky. She has a stun for an ult but it ties her up so she can’t utilize it, only teammates can. Just a few minor tweaks and she could be on par with other assassins.
She gets her slow at level 5, I agree all the same.
I love Deande, she is my most played character but only because her play style is perfect for me.
As far as changes needed, I feel she could use a movement speed increase for starters, she is y broken or unplayable without a movement speed increase but it is noticeable and annoying as hell to be slower than Alani (slight exaggeration, but only slight) when you’re supposed to be an assassin.
The only change that is absolutely needed is the removal of the 1-2 second stun that Deande suffers from at the end of using her own Ult. If used correctly (with a team that take advantage of you using your Ult) her Ult can be amazing. Unless you have communication with your team though, using your Ult as Deande is often times a massive waste and will more likely get you killed than help you because after you stun them, you are stunned.
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deande is great for capture, she is beast 1v1 with clone/uppercut combo.