#41

The most efficient way to tank is through Gunzerking with no downtime and Moxxi weapons.

Of course, if you want to stack some Brawn on top of a Moxxi gun, you would be pretty hard to bring down.

This should do the trick: http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#550041001005135015515155005004000
coupled with a legendary hoarder for the “never reloading” part

Guns can be anything you like, but you gotta have a moxxi gun that slags in your off hand, and it would be better if your main hand gun only used one ammo per shot.

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#42

That is some sound advice. Thanks for the swift response ^^

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#43

I’ve been using the Naught like hot sauce since the Community Patch came out; That !@#$% is going on everything. :grin:
I’ve got a Grounded Naught with good recharge parts, a Purple Armored Tank Class Mod for the recharge rate, and a Skin of the Ancients for more recharge rate and some nice elemental resistances.
Brawn Sal with a Naught, basically.
I’m currently running this skill loadout, and some old-fashioned Deputy ROM + Slag Lady Fist for my guns to bring the pain.
http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#550000501000545010415035115005051

Any tweaks, advice, and gun/grenade suggestions welcome!
Thanks Class,

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#44

Wow! That’s a special setup
I never thought of Brawn Sal with shields in mind…though without the Naught, there wasn’t much to think about.

Good reasons to skip shields with Sal are Inconceivable and OoBG, but a Deputy setup ignores both, so solid choice here.

Your build seems very solid. If the overall tankiness it offers is adequate, and the damage output is sufficient (considering you’re not boosting Money shot with your COM), then I have nothing to add :slight_smile:

Tamk COM: Bear in mind that whenever you increase both capacity and rate, you haven’t increased the rate at all, proportionately. But more shield is still more shield.

I guess that with a shield that always recharges and 8% or so health regen…and 6/5 Asbestos, DoTs are not a real problem :stuck_out_tongue:

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#45

Hey Chuck, whats up?
Could you help me? Im really new to Salvador, as he and Krieg are the only ones I havent played since lauch. Everytime I start a new Gunzerker, I feel I cant play it properly as I dont really know what to spec or equip.
What would be your recommendations? Should I spec aiming Gunzerker uptime/cdr? Or is it better to try to get Money Shot as fast as I can?

Also, about end game specs, there is something else besides DPUH/Grog and Deputy? Hoarder with Anarchists or Tediore reloads?

Thanks!

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#46

Hi, doing good, how about you ? :slight_smile:

Yes, most definitely. Last Longer, Yippee Ky Yay and Get some are the Holy trinity, you should put 5 points in all 3, always, no exceptions. I’m ready already is nice until you have access to Get some, but afterwards, it becomes nearly useless.

Absolutely no. So many builds don’t need Money shot, but Gunzerking is a must

Or to put it another way, I’ve made lots of builds without Money shot…but never without Get Some

All of these work yeah

The reason Grog/Harold is so popular is because its easy to play and easy to setup and you don’t have much to think about…but that doesn’t mean its the only option.

Hoarder builds are awesome IMO, but don’t feel limited to anarchists: every gun that is not semi-auto, that consumes 1 ammo per shot and that is fairly powerful can work.

I love using the Lyuda with a hoarder. Don’t worry about the low ammo capacity of snipers, You’ll never dip below 80 bullets out of 132.

Here are a few great combos for Hoarder builds:

Dual Slow hands
Dual Kittens
Grog/Lyuda
Dual Rubi
Slow hand/heartbreaker
Slow Hand/Blockhead
Grog/Longbow
Grog/Anarchist
Grog/Topneaa
Dual topneaa (yes, you can totally do a pure RL build :stuck_out_tongue: )
Moxxi/CC
Slow hand/Butcher
Kitten/Ogre
Moxxi/Teeth of Terra

… see how this is going ? … I could carry on. Just try what you like :slight_smile:

Other options Include Sljm’s Pimpslapper (Grog/Pimpernel)

You can also do good stuff with a bit of Brawn, which allows you to use more powerful guns because you’re not limited to Moxxi guns in your off-hand, but you have to be a much smarter player and/or use guns that are effective at a longer range

Dual Pimp works very well here
Swordsplosion too

This is also the right time to try those ludicrous guns like the Chopper :stuck_out_tongue:

You can also do Melee: Just get a pair of Rapiers, a Might of the Seraph and carry a bladed Grog to swap to when you need it, Spec in Fistful of Hurt and wear a Leg. Berserker COM.

Tediore chuckers are pretty fun too. A Devastator, War Dog or Legendary Hoarder COM and a pair of Tediore SMGs and you’re good.

…And there is of course a Deputy setup as an option

If any of these strike your fancy, I can come up with a build and loadout for you :slight_smile:

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#48

Hohoho! this sounds like fun!

This is actually the kind of requests I was hoping to get when I made this thread :stuck_out_tongue:

(Also, I’m pretty sure this will be perfectly viable at OP0 so no need to use OP8 guns… and it would most probably work at OP8 proper too)

Yes, the Bane, wonderful!

Strengths:

  • Very high damage
  • Very accurate (Hyperion gimmick)
  • High magazine, fire rate and reload speed
  • Broke Batman’s back

Weaknesses:

  • Makes you slow AF
  • AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! RELOADING!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Not much I can do for the second one, but the speed can probably be dealt with.

Since you are using a pair of Banes and a Magic Missile for grenade, you can’t rely on Moxxi guns for healing, so you will have to go to Brawn (which is kind of what you’ve been doing so far)

One thing I need to be sure of (and I don’t have a way to test this)
Is the Bane’s speed penalty fixed ?
Or can you fight it with movement speed increase ?

If so, this is the spec I would use:
http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#550050001005105004415041055005051

If your speed is fixed, I would go with this:

http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#550050001005005005415050055050051

In the first case, I would pick the Leg. Berserker, for the increased movement speed, as well as the fire rate increase. Add on a Rough Rider or an EVo/Neo and a Blood of the ancient (with SMG ammo), or a Blood of Terra for extra survivability. If you find that it is not necessary, a Bone of the ancient is always a good pick

In the other case, I would go with a Leg Titan for the increased Damage and the overall survivability
An Evo/Neo as a shield (don’t use a RR this time, since the Titan COM’s shield penalty will break it and you won’t get OoBG’s bonus)

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#50

Fair enough, so this will be a novelty build at best then (Damn shame…)

But, if you can find a place where movement isn’t an issue, this will wreck, I promise :wink:

Edit: OooooH!!! I know
Carry a pair of low level Badabooms and rocket-jump your way around!! :smiley:

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#52

Which will happen first: that run ending or the heat death of the universe?
Add in Hoplites and I’ll try it
That was hilarious to watch :joy:

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#53

facepalm

I overthought this :stuck_out_tongue:

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#55

Bring the badabooms if you jump in my game again :stuck_out_tongue:

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#56

So I think I already know the answer to this but a ROM with only a 2 mag size isn’t good enough for Sal, right? Picked up an OP8 one with Maya and ot quite excited until I saw the mag size

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#57

Yeah, reason is simple: Money shot doesn’t work with guns that have only one shot in the Mag

If you have a Zero however, OSOK LOVES a 2-mag ROM :slight_smile:

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#58

ah, thanks for the quick reply. I thought as much!

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#59

Chuck, sorry for the late reply and thank you a lot for the input.
I have yet to get the feel of Salvador, so I still dont know how I wanna play him. As I like shotguns in general, a lot of setups you listed seems attractive - Deputy include. I have watched Bahroo going through all Raid bosses with a pair of Hyperion Quad barrelled shotguns and seemed amazing.
The Bandit uniques also seems nice on paper.

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#60

Hey Chuck
You may remember I’m doing a Jakobs gun build ( as in all 4 gun slots w/ Jakobs but any grenades, COM, shield ) . I’m currently at level 47 and still have a bit before to go before UVHM - but it’s time to start making a plan.

My build was strictly Rampage until now - http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#000000000005505310515055001100000 ( the points in Filled to the Brim and I’m Ready may go elsewhere eventually / the plan was to max Ain’t Got Time, then work on Gunlust ).

-My guns vary with availability - 1-2 barrel Doc’s shots, pistols, Diaubs, all red-texts ( Buffalo, Rex, Law, Hammer, Stomper, Triquetra, Maggie, et al. ) ; I’ve just gotten 2 Strikers, which should be fun. I intend to continue this mix.
-Grenades have been transfusions so far (mostly).
-COM has only been a blue Berserker ( +LL & YKY ).
-Relic is Dep’s Badge.
-Shields have been Rough Rider, Neo, Adaptives, Absorbs, FotF and Spikes.

I saw your recommendations to Pie and thought that build or your Brawn Dep Sal build might work best - I may alternate them depending on what I’m carrying.

-Slag will need to come from grenades - which means I’ll need MM’s and slag transfusions.
-I’m looking out for a Jakobs allegiance relic - I think that and the Dep’s & Sheriff’s Badges would be the best relics.
-I’m not sure about COM though - Berserker or Titan ; Leg Bers, Leg Gunz, Leg Titan may all work when they show up.

What do you think?

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#61

You can already move the points from I’m ready already, they’re just about useless: You’ll get most of your cooldown from Get Some, and I’MRA doesn’t apply to that.

Not much to change there: this is not end level, so you’re not really making any “choice” per se :stuck_out_tongue:

Pure jakobs, I would go with this: http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#550000501005405010415055005005051

Modifiable depending on what you end up settling with (guns and COM)
Just move the points from FttB to AitR if you go Deputy
Since you have no access to Moxxi, you will have to go brawn mostly

A real nice choice here is the Monk COM, since it boosts Money shot and T-Rex. Even a purple one is a great pick since Asbestos is not too bad. Just move a point from incite or Bus to get the bonus.
Otherwise, Leg Titan is good, but you won’t be getting much from the 2 fire rate skill boost.
the Beast is also very decent.
The berserker is always good, but does little to help you stay alive

One cool setup I once did was with a War Dog COM and a Jakobs allegiance relic that boosted mag size and reduced recoil
bonus to FttB, flat increased mag size, bonus to 5so6 and the relic… Then you equip a striker … with a mag size of about 15 …and spam away :stuck_out_tongue:

You probably could do it with a true neutral monk too and benefit from some health regen on top :stuck_out_tongue:

Other than that, your best bet is probably a blood of the ancient relic to stack more health (making those %-based regen skill more efficient)

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#62

Crazy that I got blind to I’m Ready - especially that I just realized I can shoot barrels and skag piles to trigger Get Some if I need. All points leaving immediately.

I’m seeing a lot more flexibility in build and COMs than I first considered. I think this is going to get very cool - can’t wait for dual-Unforgivens :grin:

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#63

I didn’t even knew that :stuck_out_tongue:

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#64

A couple days ago I was shooting piles in Tundra and noticed it triggered a skill timer that was conspicuously short.

This has come in handy!

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