El Dragon's stun is pretty sucky now

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#21

I agree with that but don’t tell ashbweh that…he would hate to see her nerfed. @Ashbweh

#22

They probably give his stun back next patch. They did it for Kelvin and will probably do it for El Dragon.

#23

I don’t really want to see her nerfed. I would like pillarstorm looked at and honestly probably a slight increase in paradigm shifts cooldown. Are argue her basically because el dragon and orendi have a similar label but orendi is just miles stronger than dragon

#24

Yeah that’s true, I welcome any changes to be fair

#25

The paradigm shift cooldown is fine, it is possible you’ve been facing people who use Renaissance

#26

Okay, well nerf Renaissance

#27

NO, well if it is needed, because remember it is competing with prognostication and prognosticombo

#28

I mean considering that it’s a high damage ult on a 60 second cooldown with a deceptively large hit box that goes in a line and through things, it could probably use like an extra 10 seconds tacked on it and be fine. Take Renaissance, and firmware update and that drops it to about 48 seconds.

I mean she is easily one of the best wave clearers in the game right next to Ernest. It’s not unreasonable to think she deserves to be toned down a bit. She definetly has no right performing at a higher carry rate then el dragon does

#29

Actually the animation goes through walls, the damage does not, orendi just needs some helix stuff worked, she is one of the most balanced characters at the moment

#30

I’d say she used to be. Everybody got knocked down a peg or up, and she was always pretty good. All her competition fell always and she’s queen of the hill. Make her queen of the beachside real estate market instead

#31

None of her competition fell away, what needs to happen is some buffs to others, not a nerf

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#32

Thiiiiiiiiis. After playing orendi before the last patch I was willing to say she was a great pick strong and balanced. But considering how much they hit dragon and the other wave clearers it’s quite evident she is an outlier in her class. She is probably the second best wave clearer In the game with the highest burst potential. Like I said I don’t want her to be toned down farther than making her ult less ridiculous and pillarstorm but if the other wave clearing battleborn are balanced now then she needs to be toned down

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#33

I agree! Let’s start by reversing all of the changes to el dragon :smiley:

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#34

Besides the clap then YES

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#35

The premier wave clear champ
Two competitors
Thorn
Wave clear nerfed
Oscar Mike
Wave clear nerfed
Buffs would ofc be better though

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#36

Scrap that helix for all I care. It’s not what defined a good el dragon player

#37

Nah it’s, I want power fist to be viable, give it good burst that very noticeably better than the regular combo DPS

#38

Agreed, it didn’t get the ult buff like his punches so it was only really useful for some wave clear or kill confirming, so attack speed didn’t matter much. Attack damage was more important. The issue was the attack speed allowing it to be used as a crutch imo

#39

I should probably check real quick but I have heard that powerfist has a type of lunge with it that makes it kinda unattractive over the aoe. Unless they nerf clap even further it’s still just got more utility like epi said

#40

OMG YES!!! This is what I kept trying to tell ppl when the patch notes dropped about him

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