Update to add FOV slider and 60fps play on consoles? Canāt wait!
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You say āI was about to post telling people to just play other games while GBX work more on BB but then @Ganjamira beat me to it in one of his/her replies (still not sure of this guyās gender haha) to a recent post.ā
I would agree. But these were changes that made things worse for some to benefit others.
Thatās not right.
It is better to take your time and fix things so all benefit. Or at least none are harmed. (using you doctor analogy).
GBX chose to change things to benefit PVP at the expense of PVE.
Yes, emotions run high. That is the gaming community.
I have seen few resort to expletive laden tirade, name calling, etc.
We speak our minds, but with passion.
I respect your opinion (and typing skills); however, we will continue to express our displeasure.
Would you rather people just rage quit and never return?
I have seen those who did.
Understand for every person who was FURIOUS about Alani, Ambra, Galilea (etc) being over powered, or someone having gear that made them too hard to beat, there are now those who are FURIOUS that these changes came with unintended consequences to the PVE community. (similiar to the Cane Toad in Australia or Kudzu in Georgia)
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Just to clearify, my mentioned post there was directed to a member who (it seemed to me that way) sounded very bored & frustrated with BB in general. So I said that I switch games when I bored with game X.
I never ment to say āIgnore the problems and do somehing elseā.
I agree with you - donĀ“t stop the feedback!
Its important fo GBX to see all perspectives, but theres a difference between negative feedback and rage posts. Thats why I also agree with the OP.
Many changes in the Battleplan wereā¦harsh and very surpising for me. Personally IĀ“m quiet sad about āMossires Mukluksā and some of Alanis changes seem still very hard to me, as I play mostly PvE as well. I can totally understand the dissappointment of many gamers.
But I donĀ“t understand why their dissappointment seems to entitle some to insult other members for their opinion or perspective. And that happened alot in the last 48-72hours.
Feedback = Totally needed!
Flaming and insulting GBX/other players/fellow members = Not constructive at all.
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Love the positive message here. Iām right there with you. I too have been playing other games; GTA has had some major updates, Doom came out, I got Witcher 3, etc. The distance from the game really helped me gather even more enjoyment on the occasions when I jumped back in.
Iāve also just been trying to stay away from the forums. This is kind of my first big leap into a dedicated forum for a major game release, so I have little other experience with online game forums. But this one seemsā¦overwhelmingly negative. I feel really bad for @JoeKGBX some days, because he has to swim through/manage the river of crap that is this forum. I mean, if ever there were damning evidence of how entitled gamers are these daysā¦
But there I go being negative too. Thatās not why weāre here. I love the game, have been enjoying it, and I know for a fact GBX plan to continue to support it, as best they can, despite 2K and Take Twoās meddling. I actually live very close to where GBXās main office is, in Texas, and have playtested for them before. (It was purely volunteer work, I wasnāt paid or anything.) When you actually meet the people who work on these games, and see how much they care about their product, and making sure that people enjoy it, and want them to continue experiencing it, then it kind of puts all these other misgivings to rest. 
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Look, letās assume I could tell you EVERYTHING that we have in the hopper thatās coming up ā would you really want that? One big info dump and then ā¦ nothing. Something tells me that wouldnāt go over well. Now donāt get me wrong, I know thatās not what you meant. Taking things from one extreme to the other does not a good analogy make. I just want to encourage you guys to be patient and enjoy the ride. Weāre only 7 weeks out from launch. Thereās still a ton of info to share. Issues are being talked about and worked on everyday here. Activities and events are being planned and discussed (one of the big things on my to-do list today as a matter of fact). People are working hard on things that weāre excited to share with you guys, but itās imperative that we have a plan in place for sharing that information.
I know itās tough to wait ā believe me, Iāve been there ā but we firmly believe itāll be worth it.
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We definitely want to increase the player counts. We have a lot of fun with Battleborn, and know there are a number of fans who are also having a good time with the game. We want to get that same experience to more people. 
The āget more playersā thing is a hard one to address in communication, though, because (as youāve pointed out) promises are just air and words until they happen. So, weāre trying very hard not to over-promise. That said, we still need to communicate, and are trying to find the balance between active, interesting communication and developing expectations for things we want to do, but may be a long time in coming.
Every game on the planet wants āmore playersā. Every game has to find itās own path to doing that. Sometimes bad games get lots of players. Sometimes good games have few players. Sometimes, games get what they deserve.
The most I can really tell you folks now is that weāre still committed here. While our communication isnāt always perfect, we are working every day on updates to the game. We hope every update and every decision we make benefits and entertains you in some way.
Weāre still committed to all of the content weāve promised - more maps, more modes, the mission content in the seasons pass, more characters. Those are all in progress and coming as fast as we can get them to you. While weāre doing that, we are spending effort addressing other issues - balance, matchmaking, leaving, cheating, performance (to name a few) - have constant ongoing efforts. Weāre trying to find ways to communicate more details about that do you, but we want to do so when we are confident in the changes we can bring to the game because (again) we donāt want to set wrong expectations for you. I hate being disappointed as much as everyone else, so for now, we err on the side of slower information over wrong information or misleading time frames.
Soā¦TLDR - weāre still here. Weāre still working. We still believe in Battleborn. We have lots of ways we can improve, both in the game and in our communication with you folks.
And as always - thanks for your support. Keep talking to us.
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Hey man I read your whole reply and your ideas are sound! I really love the game for the humor too. From Attikus saying āI have no idea how to express himselfā to Boldur talking to a computer (was it a acomputer that he was talking to at the experiment?). I usually giggle at jokes in a game. But BB really makes me laugh multiple times! I love this game too man. This is the first ever forum that i have been active in. I genuinely want to see this game fly.
See the replies below! @Jythri is actually reassuring us again that they are hearing us. And I am starting to believe that. The latest battleplan seemed like they completely ignored our feedback saying that we donāt want anymore nerfs. I canāt explain why they did that. You actually convinced me that nerfs are bad for the game. Please bring the buffs GBX! In Dota 2, whenever I see buffs, I actually get hyped and wanting to play the heroes with the buffs. Nerfs donāt really make me wanna play more just because one hero or 2 got weaker. @shaman.wulf really makes a good point about nerfs destroying pve too.
Anyway, I saw your other post man! Please donāt go! Maybe help me up my command rank? Haha.
Just an idea maybe you guys could show off a little bit of the new stuff you have been working onā¦maybe a few screenshots of a new map or mission, or a video showing off a new character a little bit. Just a little something to show the doubters that you guys are working on some really cool things that they should stick around for.
Keep up the good work Iāve been a fan of this company for years, you guys have made games that I spent hours upon hours playing and I can still go back and play them and have just as much fun as before. So I have faith in you guys
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We have things in the works that aim to scratch this specific itch and weāre hoping to share more about that very soon.
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Awesomeā¦i know the game hasnāt been out very long but people seem to be very impatient for some reason(more so than usual) and this would be nice so those people could at least see what your working onā¦on a separate issue was the issue of the bug where alot of shepards show up discussed this morning? Sorry I know it donāt belong here but Iām on my phone and its being kind of slow, it would take like 10 min to find the page where you commented on it earlier
The team was aware as I thought they would be and itās a top priority for investigation today. Iām keeping up on that process and will keep you guys updated. I think the aim is to have a quick fix in as soon as possible.
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First of all, Iām glad that you jumped there to respond and I appreciate that and I like you didnāt jump the gun with my comment.
Yes, I didnāt meant I want to know everything you guys have in storage for us, just information in general.
In our situation, mine in particular 'cause obviously I only can speak for myself, you can understand we are a little tense with all this matter.
The game we wanted to support isnāt doing ok, people is playing less and less, still we doesnāt have any information, solid one, in new content and even if that was according to a schedule, a game with no microtransactions in the beginning, now asking money so little after release and without even given an already paid content like dlcs, you can get we are tense, at least, about it.
Also, the radio silence is what hurted most with the T2 skins debacle, because people was getting their hopes high, asking questions and making theories about these skins in particular and after that silence the only response came after a leak, asking for more money on a game where we paid a lot, at least in my case.
Itās tough only not knowing, but also this, for the silence involved in it, looked like an attempt to milk the cow before it dies and I know Gearbox has zero do to with marketing and sales, but still this is a Gearbox baby and is gonna look bad for Gearbox in the end.
I want to believe the game is gonna worth my money and time, Iām playing it even when I have queues for half hour now but I really, really, want to start to see the value of my money and not another attempt to pull more money from me.
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Preferably that grenadier - thatās my kind of hero! 
Second that!
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Then promote the special sales of this game. You want more people playing? Tell them when the game has a 40% - 60% discount from the regular price.
They said from the start that there would be premium skins and taunts. If you donāt want to spend money you donāt have to. These skins have been showing up on bots since early access so gearbox clearly pocketed them to keep a steady stream of post- launch content. They will continue to keep all gameplay changing content free.
Iām starting to get tired of repeating myself.
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I donāt mind to buy skins, but I thought those āpremium skinsā as you call them, will be T3 skins, not the ones we saw on bots on beta.
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People made a crap lot of threads about those beta skins, asking for when, where and etc. Even asking if they were about to come in packs because people werenāt opening them just in case. They said zilch until the leak.
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And, and this is my personal opinion, those skins are overpriced for what they are. In my opinion they should be part of the basic game as this isnāt a free to play game and some variety in costumization is something everyone could expect.
And I donāt have a problem, never said so as I recall, about if the changing content is gonna be free or notā¦ I said I want info on my already paid content, aka my seasonās pass.
Iām starting to get tired of defenders of the microtransactions that speaks to us, people that are against not microtransactions but these skins in particular, like if we are people in the street asking for coin without reading what we are actually saying.
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Edit: TLDR? Your choice.
Firstly, good on you for being optimisticā¦
While some may see the glass half empty, someone has to see it half full, right?
As Iāve said before, I have put BB down for now, only because of the issues Australians are having with the game (matchmaking times, disconnects, lag, etc - thereās a thread on it)ā¦
I preordered BB before its original February release date, because itās a gearbox game, and I love everything to do with borderlandsā¦
So thatās all it took to make me preorder it, I didnāt even know anything about it, didnāt care, hahaā¦
Recieved an email about the beta being available, so I played it, and loved it, and didnāt regret my preorder made under no assumptionsā¦
because, if I like a game, the way it looks, a particular franchise, or the companies that makes itā¦
I care not for reviews, Iāll make my own when I pay my money and put the discs in my console to play itā¦
I even started commenting on this forum when I played the beta, normally donāt care for this stuff, no regrets there either, lovely bunch of folks hereā¦
Played BB pretty much non stop for 3 weeks from May releaseā¦
No regrets, happy and very much in loveā¦
Other than it slowly getting worse in service and eventually, failing on me completely all of a sudden, Aussie player base pretty diminishedā¦
(But, you are looking into this for Australians, right @JoeKGBX?)
While I currently canāt play the game to its full capacityā¦
I donāt let all the negativity get to me (anymore)ā¦
It was getting to me, only because I found myself in that box, the disappointment boxā¦
But, I donāt regret my purchaseā¦
Because like everything in life, everything is a riskā¦
And every player is taking a risk when purchasing a gameā¦
Will it, or wonāt it be all we expect?
(Appreciation, over expectation!)
Most of the time, itās not what we expected (good or bad)ā¦
And not always because itās good, or because itās bad (okay, some are good, and some are awfulā¦)ā¦
But souly because we didnāt create itā¦
We donāt know all the processes, all the thought that goes into it, or where all that thought is constantly goingā¦
But we āthink we doā, and heck, we all like to think āwe are rightāā¦
As consumers, we are an entitled bunchā¦
Expecting if we fork out some cashā¦
Suddenly we have more power and brains than the people whom actually made or make the productā¦
āI payed this much moneyā, blah blah blahā¦
Hey, even Iāve barked such things on this forum (and probably will below, figures)ā¦
We all want to recieve āwhat we paid forāā¦
But in this āthrow our money at almost anythingā society, itās a fine line between knowing, and assuming, what we are actually paying forā¦
Nothing is that transparent anymore, under the fine print, there more fine printā¦
Yes, BB needs some more workā¦
And maybe it would be nice if ALL gaming companies didnāt try to rush their games out the door because they need to constantly compete with each other, have set profit margins, deadlines, etcā¦
It would be nice if the companies themselves had a little pep talk amongst staff to remind one another about āwhy do we make gamesā, and didnāt insist on the answer being āmoneyāā¦
(Iām sure, deep down, this isnāt the caseā¦ But gotta make those dollars)
I know ārelease datesā push this tooā¦
Screw it, donāt give anyone any (as if!), or just give an estimate, āSpring 2016ā for example, not a month and day that is too detailed to stick toā¦
Announce those finer details when it is āfullyā readyā¦
If a game takes longer than expected, then just keep the hype train before release goingā¦
Rather than half selling a half made, under prepared, just gotta get it out the door gameā¦
That consumerist are paying full price for, and only getting half their monies worthā¦
Give me back the days, where I paid $100 for a PlayStation game, recieved 2 discs of content (only because, games didnāt store the way they do now), sometimes even more discs, interchanged them, āGOTā my monies worth in a complete package, and didnāt need any of this DLC shiz, hahaā¦ (Eek, showing my age here)
Basically, after this long butt rantā¦
My conclusion isā¦
We all just want what we paid forā¦
And everyone has a different view on what that isā¦
Some word it a little harsh, but we certainly can be blunt when it comes to money, hahaā¦
But we can āchooseā how to spend our moneyā¦
We donāt need to buy these micro transaction thingiesā¦
But getting the efficiency and full content we expected, at the very least, I think is all we mainly askā¦
I paid $99.95 for BB (standard preorder disc)ā¦
I bought a $70 PS+ subscription just to be able to play it (thankfully shares between accounts on the one console - couch co op)ā¦
Then Iām expected to buy a season pass of $29.95 or individually buy content which I donāt know itās individual prices yetā¦
and have to buy TWO season passes because of couch co-op, so round that up to $60 as things donāt share between everyone on the same console for some reason (they used to)ā¦
And then theres this new micro/platinum stuff on top of that (once again, couch co op, so two of everything)ā¦
Those dollars all add upā¦
But, I havenāt gotten to the season pass, and further transactions yet, times two, because of the issues mentioned aboveā¦
But still, even what Iāve paid thus far, is a lot, for what I āusedā to be able to get in a game (original PlayStation, or even ps2 daysā¦ Maybe even ps3 a little!)ā¦
Iām glad devs/game companies are āsticking by their gamesāā¦
But please, āstick by your consumersāā¦
We all have heaps of praise to give, and itās worth its weight in gold!
The gaming expos of the year are soon to begin (e3 Iām not really counting, as itās mainly ānew stuffā)ā¦
Set up your booth gearbox at whatever one is available, pump out BB, convince more players to buy it, do all you canā¦
Thereās no need to just stick to word of mouth, or social mediaā¦ Even though thatās freeā¦
Please wisely use the dollars that players are continuing to pump into BBā¦
And, make it work for Australians!
I want to play BB again and buy all these lovely things other players are buying, I too have money to investā¦ Please @JoeKGBX!
(Sorry, this was quite the ramble, and I had no idea where it was going, or would end up, haha)
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We havenāt forgotten about our Aussie friends, donāt worry!
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