Rumplebunny
(disheveled lagomorph)
#6
I imagine the net drop rate for it is a little skewed since Saturn also has the Invader and some skins in his pool. (Kinda like the BNK-3R and all his stuff.) Or is the Hive a separate chance? I could have sworn I got an Emperor as well as the unique blue from one of the assassins simultaneously once, but I could be mis-remembering things…
In normal, probably pretty rare, but it’s hard for me to say because I never stick around and actually farm anything in there.
VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#8
This one I know about, because I’ve farmed those guys a lot. Basically, the legendary is part of one drop pool (Emperor OR skin, but not both), and the unique blue is an additional item to that pool (so you can get eg Dog + Emperor or Commerce + skin). Data here:
Not sure about Saturn, as I haven’t farmed him yet. I should probably do that!
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kgk4569
(kgk4569)
#9
I hate that Uniques are just Blue. I understand it, but still, ugh.
When I first played, before I got involved in really looking at items, I ran by so many blues cause I had great on-level purple or better gear.
Based solely on my personal experience, I’d say the Hive isn’t really that rare, actually. I really don’t know why so many people seem to have so much trouble getting Saturn to drop it. If you go by what a lot of people say, it would be one of the rarest items in the game, but when I was farming Saturn for his exclusive skins a while back I got two Hives before I got a skin and it only took a couple of hours worth of farming. So, not really rare at all. Maybe it’s just a case of common bad luck due to a slightly crowded loot pool. RNG is RNG, I guess.
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kjowers
(Kjowers)
#11
I found getting the hive in NVHM and TVHM relatively easy, took maybe a dozen goes before it dropped. Make sure you have a good look around though, one i found had dropped behind the building and could easily have been missed.
My problem is in UVHM, just cannot get one no matter how many times I have tried. So level 50 seems to be my lot but even that is a pretty good RL.
Well, it is true that I was in normal mode, since I was farming for the skins and not the Hive, but still, it would be really odd if it had a lower drop rate in UVHM. Isn’t it technically supposed to be the other way around?
kgk4569
(kgk4569)
#13
Usually, it depends on what pool it is in. If more Items are added to that pool, then it would lower the rate (in theory).
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VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#14
Designated drops are not generally affected by number of players. The “more loot” thing with more players is because of more higher category enemies, who have more in their loot definitions lists than regular chumps. The odds of a legendary from any boss in the game is 1 in 10 regardless of mode. That 1 in 10 chance gets divided by the number of items in that boss’ designated loot pool eg if it’s a legendary and a head, 1 in 10 for either but 1 in 20 for the legendary only.
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Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#15
So my question now is : is it worth farming? I’ve literally never had one. The wiki claims each child rocket gets amp damage. Four ammo per shot though, eesh.
VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#16
I’m going to try and get one, just to cross it off my list of Things to Find in Pandora.
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kgk4569
(kgk4569)
#17
That really depends on you. Are you a curious person and like trying new things? Or are you comfortable with your equipment and your playstyle?
Personally I think everything should be tried. You don’t know what will really affect your playstyle until you give it a shot. Look at me for example. I love my Bearcat, most other people avoid it like the plague. I played a Run and Gun Zer0 until OP6 WITHOUT using Deathmark.
Each person is unique, I say give it a try, at worst you lost a few hours and got to try a new gun. At best you upped your potential.
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VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#18
“Nobody can run Digistruct peak as Zer0 without using Deathmark”
“You would consider it a challenge? Challenge accepted. The peak, my masterpiece…”
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kgk4569
(kgk4569)
#19
Lol, more my own stupidity, I misunderstood it. I rarely melee, and I thought it boosted melee ONLY.
Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#20
Having checked into it just now I’d say it definitely looks like an interesting-to-use launcher. And that’s really it : the game provides a large number of uninteresting weapons that we all use all the time because they’re effective ; but most of us are curious about unconventional gear because they make the game more interesting and fun.
So yes, I think it’s time to get one. I would definitely use it.
kgk4569
(kgk4569)
#21
What I would like to see is someone camping at the Marcus Machine after the Assassins in DigiPeak, using it to Snipe the Saturn(s).
I think if I get one I will do this.
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Troubled
(The Stoic Gunslinger)
#22
I never had one drop and only was interested in farming it once for someone who had asked for it after they gave an item. I was obliged to do so even if I wasn’t interested until they told me they had one drop on their first kill in NVHM.
I know very little about the rocket launcher other than it releases a swarm of projectiles and is corrosive.
VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#23
No luck tonight - just the normal Saturn drops (blue, green, sometimes purple).
Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#24
So I went and got one. It was the fifth run I think. I never realized it was a unique (blue) which is part of the reason I’ve not seen one before.
Seeing as I’m OP7 and was attempting my OP8 unlock, I figured I’d do exactly that. What could go wrong?
Problem is the constant barrage of missiles: I couldn’t get a single one to land beside Saturn. The hive would stop about 20 feet from me. Eventually I died trying a run and gun. Silly me.
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kgk4569
(kgk4569)
#25
Darn. That sucks. Well, at least it was attempted…
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